Magnesium supplements

[Tropicaltaurus]

Hi, I've seen a few posts on here saying about taking magnesium taurate supplements. Just wondering which one's are good to take as there are so many different one's. Also did you check first with your GP/cardiologist before taking?Thanks 😊

[Crumble2]

I started taking magnesium glycinate about 8 months ago after a lot of research, including watching Sanjay Gupta’s YouTube videos. I’ve noticed I have a lot more energy and I have been in NSR for all that time. I had been going out of rhythm every 2-3 months previously. I think it depends on your own situation as we’re all unique with afib.

[cockerfarley in reply to Crumble2]

Hi I take Mag Taurnate from Ethical Nitrition as per Dr Sanjay Guptav You tube channel York Cardio. The recommended dosage is 2 per day, but I alternate 2 per day then 1per day and so on.I started coming in and out of NSR following cardioversion, but having started the Mag supplements have been in daily NSR since 2nd Oct. Don't know if it's the supplements or not, but I'm happy for now, so no plans to change. 🤞👌

[Heart1604 in reply to cockerfarley]

hi I just read your comment. Can you post a picture of the bottle I tried looking for it and I can’t find it. Also, can I take that and glysinate

[cockerfarley in reply to Heart1604]

Hi I get mine in a pouchIf you google Ethical nutrition

Magnesium Taurate, you'll find them there.

[Ennasti]

My doctor prescribed magnesium orotate.

[Ppiman]

You might also seen other posts on here saying that there's no evidence that magnesium, taken orally, and that science has shown that it does nothing measurably useful for heart arrhythmias. In my case, it certainly did nothing at all and I have found that nothing does help apart from the prescribed tablets.

Magnesium is best absorbed from food, and all vegetation has lots in it in absorbable complex organic forms (green chlorophyll is based on Mg for example). If you healthily, as you should with AF, keeping the weight within normal limits, then you will help your AF and won't be short of any nutrients apart, perhaps, of vitamin D in the winter months. A blood test can be done to check all of this.

Yet, magnesium is safe as all excess is excreted, leading only to a laxative effect. So it's safe to try and, from reports here, even though it's a placebo effect most likely (but who knows?), it's worth a go. Organic salts such as citrate, taurate and glycinate are slightly faster absorbed but there's truly little between them - science has shown that much. The most expensive is no different from the cheapest (if it ever proves to be, then you know it's a placebo effect, for sure!).

Steve

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to Ppiman]

Thanks for your comprehensive reply Steve, my diet could certainly be healthier and i do need to lose some weight which I've put on since a cancer diagnosis two years ago. Vitamin D not a problem as I'm on prescribed calcium + vit D due to hormone suppressors. I think i might try the cheap one's as although i suspect you're right in that it probably won't do much good but as long as it doesn't do any harm it might make me "feel" like I'm doing some good until i actually get to talk to a cardiologist! Thanks again

[Ppiman in reply to Tropicaltaurus]

Well - I feel for you. What a lot of worry you've had. Life throws us some awful things to deal with at times, for sure. If I were you I would try magnesium taurate if only because it's being recommended by some cardiologists and it can do no harm. Who knows - you might be one of those for which it is a success?

Steve

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to Ppiman]

Thanks Steve 😊

[Jpan6 in reply to Ppiman]

If you take Vit D you should also take Magnesium and cofactors in balance so that calcium is deposited in the bones and not the soft tissue. Also not all magnesium is laxative. Most aren't. Bisglycinate is not, for example. It tends to be the buffered magnesium that is best to be avoided and citrate is one that can be laxative.

[Ppiman in reply to Jpan6]

I’ve never seen that in a study so that’s interesting. Can you point to one, please?

Homeostasis keeps the balance of all electrolytes and without that we’d die very quickly from a heart attack or other. The kidneys deal with excess of minerals mostly, preventing overdosage. Some small molecules, notably potassium, can defeat the kidneys because they are absorbed easily and act too quickly for the kidneys to excrete them in time, making excess potentially very dangerous.

Magnesium in excess, whichever salt, on the other hand, is unusually safe. It is only absorbed in tiny amounts from the small intestine with all excess passed into the large bowl unchanged where it creates an osmotic effect and - in sufficient concentration - a laxative action.

Steve

[OzJames]

I take Cardiovascular Research I found online on Amazon and EBay after reading good reviews. I take one mid morning with my CoQ10 and Vitd3 and I take one magnesium bisglycinate at night that brand is Renew Actives again from Amazon. My doctor before giving me the ok to take these Supps did bloods to confirm that I was below mid range of normal for magnesium and low VitD3 and CoQ10. So as one of the other posters said you can get from food but before starting organise the blood tests. Btw I eat lots of fruit and Veg and some of my bloods were low so that’s why the tests will help.

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to OzJames]

Thank you 😊

[Ppiman in reply to Tropicaltaurus]

Just to say that if the diet is replete with Mg, i.e from eating lots of fruit and veg, then, if the Mg is still low (and it's hard to measure as it exists inside the cells and in the bones, it might be an absorption problem - rare but not that rare. In that case, depending on the cause of the malabsorption, oral Mg is often still unlikely to help, but it just might.

Steve

[JGBH in reply to OzJames]

May I ask you were the tests for magnesium and for CoQ10 done at your surgery by an NHS GP/nurse?

Have you felt an improvement since taking the supplements? Best wishes.m

[OzJames in reply to JGBH]

Done by a nurse and sent to a Pathology Lab. It did cost a little extra. In August I was retested and magnesium had reached the middle level VitD was above mid level and CoQ10 was at the bottom of normal range so I intend to slightly increase that one. In terms of results, I’m feeling calmer and have had one AF episode end of September. Also have helped with ectopics with last bad episode in January and nothing since.

Mind you I also exercise daily I practice mindful nasal breathing and have changed my sleeping position to be more elevated at the head. It’s stopped my snoring and so I get better sleep. It could be a combo of everything that’s keeping me somewhat stable.

[JGBH in reply to OzJames]

Thank you for replying. It’s good to know you are feeling better, so it might be a combination of everything as you said. Did you buy the test privately and from whom if I may ask? Keep on improving…

[OzJames in reply to JGBH]

I’m in Australia and standard blood tests are free. We added the CoQ10 which was about $60 extra the other 2 were not extra

[JGBH in reply to OzJames]

Thank you. I did not realise you were in Australia. So was rather surprised your levels were tested, in the UK

The NHS would not test for Magnesium nor CoQ10…. Yet this is so important. VitD levels are tested.

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to JGBH]

That's true, wonder what they would say if we ask to be texted. I'm due bloods In the next month or so for an unrelated problem, i might ask and see what they say

[JGBH in reply to Tropicaltaurus]

I would love to be a fly on the wall when you ask your GP to be tested for Magnesium and CoQ10!!! 😄

Please do let me/us know… Good luck!

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to JGBH]

😂😂😂

[OzJames in reply to JGBH]

As I said I think if you pay a little extra they will do them

[JGBH in reply to OzJames]

For these kinds of tests one would need to contact a private testing company, in the UK. There are a few.

[Janey1955]

hi

I have started taking magnesium taurate. Not sure if there is any difference but I wondered if it could be safe with apixaban. Seem ok so far but don’t know if anyone knows the answer to that

Jane

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to Janey1955]

I have no idea either

[Brizzy50000]

I have been taking magnesium turate for about five years after my successful ablation after suffering a lot of ectopic beats, I take biocare from amazon, I have taken some cheaper options but for me Biocare works for me (placebo effect) who knows? My ectopic's are now almost non existence so for me it works, good luck

[Tropicaltaurus in reply to Brizzy50000]

Thank you, glad it works for you, long may it continue!

[JOY2THEWORLD49]

Hi

I don't take any supplements but cover them in natural food.

Toxicity with minerals is common because if you take more in food your body eliminates surplus. But if taken via supplements or some meds bind with it (constipation), are stored and they build up.

Have a friend who was taking collidal silver and was rushed to hospital. Then I went to pick up kiwicrush but new doctor given me sachets with potasium in them. I checked with my doctor and she said no way could I take it.

Care must be taken. I take SOLGAR B12 sublingual. I an deficient.

I get tested every year.

cheri JOY 74. (NZ)

[bean_counter27 in reply to JOY2THEWORLD49]

Unlike magnesium, potassium etc silver has no known function in the body and is not an essential mineral.

[JOY2THEWORLD49 in reply to bean_counter27]

Hi

My friend is a naturalpath! She was ingesting it to act like an antibiotic.

She now knows the toxicity of it.

As I'm allergic to nickel I would too scared to ingest anything like that.

But its worth knowing that supplements can build up in your body but natural food doesn't.

Noting that B12 has a normal range in NZ up to 900 whereas someone UK had normal up to 1200! It doesn't hurt you to have more. When deficient 150 level dr and I watched it creep up and at 6 weeks with 1 every day, I was at 900 and we watched it go down but it's worth knowing that a 900 level is great for us oldies.

By the way NZ won the Yachr race in Dubai. Australia 2nd and Canada third. I watched at 11pm on TV 3 and it is repeating now on TV3 4.30pm time NZ.

cheri JOY. 74. (NZ)

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Magnesium Glycinate