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Sulforaphane - which brand ?

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For those who take Sulforaphane what brand and dosage are you taking ?

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lcfcpolo profile image
lcfcpolo

I take 'Prostaphane' which was developed in France. I live in the UK and can order in the UK from a UK supplier. This is the most expensive but from what I have read, the best quality product on the market. Each capsule contains 10 mg of Sulforaphane and 220 mg of broccoli seeds extract. I usually take 2 capsules per day in the morning. You can take between 1 and 6 capsules per day, it is your choice. I believe it is called BROQ in the US of A.

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

Thanks. Will look it up 😊

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

Do you know what the study dose used was

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lcfcpolo in reply toTinkudi

From what I remember the study dose was 6 capsules a day but it was only for a short period. On the box it says 1 to 6 a day. However, Vitality Pro who supply mine have inserted guidelines saying 1 to 3 capsules a day. So it's not set in stone.

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LeeLiam in reply tolcfcpolo

Yes Broq, amazon.com/gp/product/B08JG...

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allie2020

I eat a lot of broccoli stalks, almost daily for my sulforaphane. Isn't this a good source or am I missing something?

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tn12 in reply toallie2020

No, sulforaphane is from from broccoli sprouts, not mature stalks.

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MrG68 in reply toallie2020

Yes, you can get sulphoraphane from brocoli. You're supposed to crack it, so I'd make sure you chew it well.

Brocoli sprouts are much higher though. You can freeze them and the freezing process cracks them. People put them in smoothies but personally I think they much better unfrozen and on your food.

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dhccpa in reply toallie2020

Have you tried growing sprouts? Can be done easily in a coffee cup and is much more concentrated in sulphoraphane than grown stalks.

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tn12

I sprout them at home for my husband. Natural and organic. He eats 120g per day.

Broccoli sprouts
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Tinkudi in reply totn12

That looks lovely. You mean you grow these at home ?

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tn12 in reply toTinkudi

Yes it's easy and fast. You should look into it

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Tinkudi in reply totn12

Ok. How long does it take to grow. You get the seeds ? And how do you measure how many gms of sulf

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tn12 in reply toTinkudi

Yes I get organic broccoli seeds. Takes about 5 days for one jar that yields me 250g of sprouts that's about 4 tbsp of seeds. So for him to eat 125g/day I have 4 jars sprouting on a rotational basis.

Sprouts
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Tinkudi in reply totn12

Thanks 😊. So 125 gm of sprouts would be how much of sulforaphane

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tn12 in reply toTinkudi

1 cup (91 G) of broccoli sprouts contain: Protein: 4.6. Carbohydrates: 6.2 G (3.6 Fiber) = 2.6 Net. Sulforaphane: 227.5 mg- although amounts can differ depending on a multitude of factors, including the process of sprouting, and type of seed used.

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Tinkudi in reply totn12

thanks so much. Do you know what was the dosing used in the trials

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tn12 in reply toTinkudi

You'll have to do some research. It's a lot of info.

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dhccpa in reply totn12

How high do they get before he consumes? Or how long are the sprouts before consuming?

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tn12 in reply todhccpa

It takes about 5 days to fill this jar I use.

Sprouts
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dhccpa in reply totn12

Thanks. That's quite a crop!

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spencoid2

I am taking Osasuna 450 mg one cap per day. Husband chose the brand, no idea why or how it compares in reviews to others?

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dhccpa in reply tospencoid2

I've used their liposomal artemisinin, but not their sulforaphane. I've never read a review of the quality but have wondered.

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RMontana

I have written extensively about sulfur and have been taking both a supplement and dosing with natural broccoli sprout now for more than two years. I believe the science is more than convincing. Here’s a couple of links, but you’ll have to go to my post site to get all the articles. I also have other articles there on vitamin D and it’s impact. You may want to check that out as well. good luck.

healthunlocked.com/active-s...

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Tinkudi in reply toRMontana

Thanks 😊 Where can I find those articles. I think you sent only one link

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RMontana in reply toTinkudi

I am traveling so I’m all thumbs up with my cell phone. If you go to my site, I have a tab called post. And if you drill down there, you’ll see a bunch on Sulfurophane. There is also a couple of good posts on vitamin D which you should look at. Again, lots of controversy as to whether this stuff works or not but the science on both of these is very good. if you can’t find it, I’ll try to help but I won’t be home for another week. I’m on the road.

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Atlantic77

youtu.be/PUGSujpODj4?si=ilG...

You can grow your own brocoli sprouts and eat a handful a day.

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Mrtewills

I take Double Wood

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MoonRocket

I would be interested in seeing posts from members who take these supplements and can show any impact on their prostate cancer. I use to take these supplements when I first started out on my PCA journey and now I take nothing... literally nothing except my PCA meds. My results are the same. So I'd be interested in reading an actual case where someone can show a positive treatment result on their PCA.

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Tinkudi in reply toMoonRocket

I read posts of Tall Allen saying sulforaphane is the only supplement which has studies showing it is beneficial for Prostate CA

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MoonRocket in reply toTinkudi

Crack open those studies and look at the Gleason scores of the men who had a positive result.

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Tinkudi in reply toMoonRocket

You mean to say that the sulforaphane studies which showed benefit were done on men with not high Gleason scores ?

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MoonRocket in reply toTinkudi

Yes. For men with low Gleason scores i.e. (3+3) or (3+4), you may be able to control the PCA with diet. It is my opinion that once you get to (4+3) Gleason 7 and above the effect of diet on the PCA is minimal. Any supplements taken are very unlikely to have any impact.It's an emotional decision, i.e. one feels like they are doing something to effect the PCA but I haven't seen any real evidence of this actually occurring. I stopped taking all supplements and focus on exercise, diet and just having a good time.

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dhccpa in reply toMoonRocket

I've shown great stability for six years on Lupron, but then I AM on Lupron.

So I've wondered the same thing many times about all supps I've taken (probably well over 50 on a rotating basis).

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tn12 in reply toMoonRocket

Check out my profile for his PSA trend. It was 0.04 in March and last week is 0.01. he eats broccoli sprouts, pomegranates and I also make him ginger/turmeric shots.

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MoonRocket in reply totn12

I checked out your profile...your husband had Gleason 7 ( 3+4) and had an RP....would you expect anything different in PSA test? Was he taking this before PCA? If yes, then why did he get PCA? If no, your husband was cured by the RP and the supplements your feeding him are mostly about you and less about him.

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tn12 in reply toMoonRocket

Cured? Recurrence after T3B is guaranteed. He started after RP. He had positive margins, extensive EPE. We were prepared for an early recurrence due to the adverse pathology. So no, it's not about me. Thanks for your honesty.

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Mascouche

Brocoli sprouts have more sulforaphane than Brocoli but this can be increased further by heating water up to 160 Fahrenheit (70 Celcius) and keeping the sprouts in that water for 10 minutes before eating them. Apparently this increases their potency by 3.5 times.

aegeandelight.com/growing-b...

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Teufelshunde

I take BROQ (broq.life or Amazon) which is the US version of what was used in the study from the French company that produces Prostaphane. The dose used in the study was 60 mg/day in three doses. There is no other supplement anywhere close. I dont understand why anyone, when you have the EXACT product used in the study, that you dont use it. Go to Broq website and you will see why what most of you are using is nowhere near the pure dose from Broq. Remember the study results are dose dependent. Take less, get less results. Yes it is expensive, but if $$ is an issue, I would use less of Broq, than any food or supplement substitute. Here is the study in case you dont have it.

aacrjournals.org/cancerprev...

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j-o-h-n

Best way to eat broccoli: Chew it..........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

MrG68 profile image
MrG68

Personally I'd try to get nutrients from food rather than supplements.For sulphoraphane I'd consider brocoli sprouts. So easy to make and dirt cheap. Quite good fun as well. Who doesn't like a bit of fun?

From what I've read, I think that sulphur is a seriously underrated mineral and extremely important.

Sulphur is used to sulphate things like cholesterol and D3 created from sunlight. Supplemented D3 and cholesterol in your body will not be sulphated,without sunlight. This has two important properties. Is makes both water soluble but also modfies the structure of what it attaches to. This allows the cholesterol and D3(and other compounds) to freely travel the body, but also not be activated until it reaches where it needs to be - where the sulphur is removed. So D3 created from the sun has much better efficacy than the supplement form.

But what I also find extremetly interesting, assuming my understanding is right, when your cholesterol is sulphated it doesn't need to be transported by lipoproteins. So if you have high ldl you could try to increase your sulphur because then it doesn't need to transported that way. Ldl is otherwise used because cholesterol is not water soluble and needs to be packaged.

But, also when cholesterol is sulphated if it interacts with the lipoprotein the sulphur part sticks out. This then creates a gel like substance around the lipoprotein - a barrier that protects it against oxidation.

This gel is used throught your body as a barrier. It prevents bad things going to where they're not welcome. It will trap thing like deuterium which can have a devastating effect on your mitochondria.

I think it was research done by Stephanie Seneff that I was reading.I think that's correct but apologies if I've got anything wrong, it was a while ago.

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Mascouche in reply toMrG68

I agree with the dirt cheap but the easy and fun are subjective.

Easy: I've been growing them for 2 or 3 years and still end up throwing a batch of sprout out of 3 or 4 to the garbage because some of them spoil faster than others even if all the seeds are from the same bag. Sometime they spoil after 7-8 days and sometimes after just 5-6. Sometime they a tea spoon of seeds only produces 3 or 4 sprouts while the dozens of other seeds do not sprout and just waste away. I tried with tap water and with filtered water and can't find the approach that has consistent results. I must not have a green thumb :)

Fun: My wife and children complain that I stink up the house whenever I open the container to water them so they do not think it is fun. :)

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MrG68 in reply toMascouche

That used to happen to me. I'd have 2 batches, same seeds and one would sometimes spoil.What I found was if I paid more attention to not contaminating the Mason jar they were fine. I'd clean the jars and lids with boiling water and let it cool before starting a batch and only hold the jar,not the lid area. If you use a seeding lid, you can add water, swish around and drain without having to touch the lid.

Yep, sulphur can be smelly. But there's no free lunch. Huge benefits far outweigh little mishaps.

😀

Edit: by the way, you can also ferment them for added potency. I've done that a lot as well. But I don't think it's necessary and it may put a lot of people off them because that's a different taste/smell altogether and it takes some getting used to. 😱

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Mascouche in reply toMrG68

Thanks for the tips!

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Lika-g in reply toMrG68

I grow broccoli sprouts in special containers. The sprouts do not rot, there is no unpleasant smell.

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MrG68 in reply toLika-g

Love it. Mini production line going on there.👍

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lokibear0803

Broccomax, 2 caps/day x 3 so I get something reasonably equivalent to what the study was using. This dose accounts for bioavailability.

Why do I take this? TL;DR uh, I have my reasons...

Long version:

No way I can tell you it works for me or not - I'm an N=1 study, so anecdotal is the best I can do. I have seen some correlations (when taking it consistently vs not taking it for a while) but I would not draw any conclusions.

What I'm using to rationalize spending the money: (1) trusting the study results, (2) taking my SPOP mutation into consideration, since (3) SPOP-mut hypermethylates various segments of my DNA, vs the hypothesis, as I understand it, that (4) sullforaphane down-regulates hypermethylation, and finally (5) again, as I understand it, considering that the DNA regions that are hypermethylated by SPOP-mut are supposed to be translated into tumor suppressor genes, but the methylation prevents that.

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Tinkudi in reply tolokibear0803

Thanks. So you take 6 tablets daily ,

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lokibear0803 in reply toTinkudi

yes, 6/day. I wrote that a bit clumsily on my first try. So 6/day, two at a time. Huh, that still sound clumsy. Two caps, three times a day.

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Tinkudi in reply tolokibear0803

Lol. I get it 😊. Thanks

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Maxone73

120mg per day in two doses, plus I like broccoli so I eat them often, with organic mustard or mustard seeds. Mustard contains sulforaphane as well, but the good part is that it increases the bioavailability of sulforaphane from broccoli greatly.

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Tinkudi in reply toMaxone73

When you say organic mustard do you mean like the seeds or leaves ? Is mustard sauce ok too you think

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Maxone73 in reply toTinkudi

I use an organic sauce and seeds, whatever I feel like. But also powdered seeds.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/298...

"The concentration of sulforaphane metabolite (sulforaphane N-acetyl-l-cysteine [SF-NAC]) in 12 healthy adults after the consumption of 200 g cooked broccoli, with and without 1 g powdered brown mustard, was studied in a randomized crossover design. During the 24-h period following the consumption of the study sample, all urine was collected. SF-NAC content was assayed by HPLC. When study subjects ingested cooked broccoli alone, mean urinary SF-NAC excreted was 9.8 ± 5.1 μmol per g creatinine, and when cooked broccoli was consumed with mustard powder, this increased significantly to 44.7 ± 33.9 μmol SF-NAC per gram creatinine." here they used powdered

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Maxone73 in reply toTinkudi

and here are some (I have not verified the quantities so I do not take responsibility :-) ) other good sources of sulforaphane, some even better than broccoli (so they write but you can easily verify it):

hitchcockfarms.com/blog/sul...

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