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QOL – Firmagon Brand Names

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Tomorrow I am scheduled to get my 18th injection of Degarelix. Despite the monthly frequency, I’m much happier with the SE’s from Degarelix than from Lupron or Eligard. A few months back I pointed out the ironic brand name Firmagon to my nurses, and now they have to joke about the name at every implant session.

Last month we got to tossing around names that were rejected by the marketing team at Ferring Pharmaceuticals. Through some Internet sleuthing I was able to uncover the team’s actual list of discarded names. In no particular order they are:

• TeenyPeni

• NeuterED

• MiracleMelons

• ShrinkyDinky

• Mini-me

• Cumnomore

• StubbyBubby

• Caztrate

• FlacCid

• Bonergonner

• IffyStiffy

• LymphDik

Any low hanging fruit (or berries) that the Ferring team missed?

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RyderLake2 profile image
RyderLake2

Hello,

I have had many a good laugh at “Firm is gone” but I have to admit the names you came up with are great!😊

Kaliber profile image
Kaliber

funny …. Great post brother

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Carlosbach in reply toKaliber

Hope you are doing okay Big K

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Kaliber in reply toCarlosbach

We have to ride out the rough spots buddy. I know all of us have them . Probably the longer you deprive your body of things it needs …. The more it punishes you. My palliative care doctor started me on duloxetine ( cymbalta ) this week, she says it should help with a lot of things ….. neuropathy pain, bg, mental …. other stuff.

Thanks for asking buddy, I’m definitely not dancing in the halls rotflol. My fluffy has more lint lately lol. Hope you are feeling well and as stable acbe.

Love you brother

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Carlosbach in reply toKaliber

Hope the cymbolta helps with your pain, as well as other stuff. Seems like when your plate is full life just gives you sideboards so nothing will slide off your plate.

Glad to be back in a place where I can joke and play around some.

Hope you can feel the love overwhelming you brother.

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Kaliber in reply toCarlosbach

Rotflol. I’m glad to see that you are on a “ up “ cycle for a change buddy . Seems like you are getting trashed a lot recently. You deserve some “ up “ time for a change. This stuff can be the chits sometimes…huh ? At least we can get on here and vent and brothers will get on and commiserate … knowing exactly how screwed up we feel. lol. Thank goodness for this group and all the brothers here helping each other. ( sad any of are here but glad we are here helping each other lol )

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Carlosbach in reply toKaliber

You said it Rōshi!

Life continues as it will whether we have advanced cancer or not. I was diagnosed with Stage IV a little over four years ago, and since then I have experienced 3 events that were more traumatic than dealing with my diagnosis. I did a lot of work to maintain my life positive outlook, and continued to grow through it all. However, my son's sudden death last year at only 43 rocked me.

I'm thankful to our forum members who were there for me, and have helped me heal.

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Kaliber in reply toCarlosbach

Roshi …. Oh dear. Rotflol I don’t have “ titles “ here and since married initiates can’t be called priest anymore ( monastic rule change back in the early 80s ) , the term nowadays is minister if you are married. lol there used to be a number of married priests back in the day, after all, traditionally priests of the order back in Japan can have wives but Rev Master Jiyu Kennett changed up the rules decades ago. These days I’m just plain ole me , nothing extra lol. Maybe KDC …. Kaliber da croaker , that’d be appropriate.. 😂now and always OBC in my heart mind.

Right on buddy. I think you do maintain a positive mind set, despite all the crap in your life. Chit happens in normal life, and it seems / feels ever more magnified/ pungent when seen through the filter of a stage 4 death sentence doesn’t it. To me , it’s a unique experience, …. croaking in slow motion / trounced by life sustaining cancer drugs … our entire life / reality changes because of it.

I hear you brother , about the sorrow and grief the premature death of a child brings. I get it. A few years ago, my grandson came out of his bedroom , Christmas morning, to see what Santa brought. What Santa brought was his mother slumped over in front of her computer screen, near the Christmas tree, already turning blue with lividity . Cold as an ice cube. My daughter, Melissa, was only 36 years old , she died of “ suds “. Sudden unexpected death syndrome. Inexplicably dead. You never dream you will outlive a child , do we ? Yuck ….😥

Anyway on that happy note I’ll move on lol. This morning , Wednesday 28th , Im anxiously waiting to see if I have to make an emergency run to Kaiser E.R. .

I started a new med yesterday at noon …. Cymbalta…. And as of about 10 p.m. last evening I haven’t had a urination. For several years , I’ve routinely had to urinate every 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours 24/7. As of right now , I’ve only gone twice since yesterday evening …. About 1/3 normal volume and it’s real dark …. I figure I’m currently down / missing 7-8 urinations, retaining over a quart + of urine ,….. somehow….., that I wouldn’t normally have inside me. And it’s racking up fast as the hours fly by. It’s a waiting game, I’ve messaged my pallitive care Doctor …. Just biting my nails …waiting.

Wow …. We’re brothers more than we know sometimes… aren’t we ??? lol

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Carlosbach in reply toKaliber

Get in and have them catheter you immediately!!!

Before my diagnosis my bladder almost burst after a day of being unable to pee

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Carlosbach in reply toCarlosbach

Sorry for being so directive. I had two frantic trips to the ER with retention issues. The staff put the fear of a burst bladder into me with their stories of infection. Even with the cathetering my bladder was stretched and it took a few months to heal. After the second trip I started self-cathing to prevent any further injury. That continued for several months

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Kaliber in reply toCarlosbach

about 10 a.m. I had contacted the clinic and notes to my busy palliative care doctor ….. then the river started to cut loose. Obviously the time release cymbalta started wearing off and flood gates commenced lol. I produced 10 times more urine between 10 and 12 a.m. today ….. in two hours than the previous twelve hours. Man a smile of relief flooded over me …. I was never so happy to be peeing my bladder out rotflol. Plop plop fizz fizz , what a relief it is. 😂😂😂

Dodged another bullet

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Carlosbach in reply toKaliber

Thanks for sharing the great news

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Kaliber in reply toCarlosbach

It’s a little sad the cymbalta didn’t work. It was providing some great medication benefits … oh well. lol

Thanks buddy

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Lettuce231

Nice one, Firm-agon. Sooo true 😆

Tinkudi profile image
Tinkudi

Can you elaborate more pls on what side effects you had with lupron due to which you prefer Degarelix ? Do you get SE from Degarelix ?

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Carlosbach in reply toTinkudi

TinMan, I was on a 3-month schedule. I really struggled with psycological SE's a few days before my implant, and for a week or more following each implant. The mental SE's got worse with each cycle until 2.5 years in when I felt like my emotions and mental processes were deteriorating to the point that I was willing to stop treatment rather than continuing to fight with the SE's.

With Firmagon i still have some mental SEs a day or two before the treatment and for a day or two afterwards, but the SE's are significantly less debilitating.

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Tinkudi in reply toCarlosbach

Thanks

Do you get injection site reactions with Degarelix

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Carlosbach in reply toTinkudi

initially, but very minor anymore

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billyboy3

I have taken monthly lupron since day one, 26 years ago! I inject myself now as easy to do as into belly fat. Practise with your nurse or doc and learn to do it. Lupron can be kept for two months out of a fridge, so you can keep it in the fridge until an hour or so before injection, or days before.

The idea is for you to keep control over your disease and have Input into your treatment!

The more you can do yourself the better!!!

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Tinkudi in reply tobillyboy3

How are you doing. What do your T levels range at ? Is the zytiga working

Carlosbach profile image
Carlosbach in reply toTinkudi

I'm at 4-years of non detect PSA and low T. Firmagon and Zytiga still working well.

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Tinkudi in reply toCarlosbach

Do you know your T level

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Carlosbach in reply toTinkudi

>3

j-o-h-n profile image
j-o-h-n

Funny!!! Thank you....... Lingerwithmyfinger Balm.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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Carlosbach in reply toj-o-h-n

Two scoops of balm?

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j-o-h-n

Of course!!!

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

dockam profile image
dockam

Love it 😂

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Carlosbach in reply todockam

thank you bruddah

Ron53 profile image
Ron53

I'm tempted to run that by my Nurse, but she holdeth a big needle!

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Carlosbach in reply toRon53

Mine seem to enjoy a laugh. Not much humor in oncology.

I also tell them that I know it’s time for my implant when I start noticing women again

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Kaliber in reply toCarlosbach

lol

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Carlosbach

The onco nursing team's top two choices for new and improved Firmagon were:

FlacCid, nd

NeuterED

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