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trying to follow the suggestion of several guys here and take Sulforaphane.

I couldnt find any sulforaphane supplement with myrosinase except Jarrow's Broccomax which is out of stock for a long time and doesnt seems to be in the near future.

Any suggestion on any other way to get the supplement ?

Thanks

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pjoshea13

Years ago, when I realized that BroccoMax was ineffective (it didn't have myrosinase in those days), I turned to broccoli sprouts. Here's what I did. My local supermarket sells the sprouts. I'd buy 4 or more packs at a time. I pureed them to damage as many cells as possible without making the liquid hot. I filled ice cube trays with the puree & froze.

Each morning, I would thaw a cube, add some water & swallow it down.

I stopped doing that when the dark specks appeared in BroccoMax. They didn't put "myrosinase" on the label at first, but a friend was in contact with the company.

Heat destroys myrosinase. Cooked broccoli is useless unless myrosinase is added afterwards. A good source is raw horseradish. Daikon & other radishes are also cruciferous sources of myrosinase. Even so, one must chew carefully so as to damage as many cells as possible.

-Patrick

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Lika-g in reply to pjoshea13

Is one cube of frozen broccoli sprouts enough per day? There's only about 7 grams... And you need at least 140 grams of broccoli sprouts per day (60mg of sulforaphane). Thanks

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pjoshea13 in reply to Lika-g

Just as well BroccoMax added myrosinase. Much easier now. Thanks! -Patrick

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Lika-g in reply to pjoshea13

Unfortunately, there are no Broccomax deliveries to Russia. I'll have to chew the sprouts. But I don't know the dosage.

Thanks for your answer!

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Magnus1964

It is available on Amazon.

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NPfisherman

Pray that no one lights a cigar or cigarette if you break wind as a stat call to the local burn unit may be in order... LOL...

All the best,

Fish

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cujoe in reply to NPfisherman

Why am I standing here all by myself?? (See my comment below.) Be Well, Fisherman - cujoe

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j-o-h-n in reply to NPfisherman

LOL Climate change.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 03/15/2019 5:23 PM DST

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NPfisherman in reply to j-o-h-n

Yes, all these broccoli sprout consumers will be lumped in with the cows-- to be terminated for the offense of being climate change instigators.... send Arnold...The Terminator... tell him to watch how the wind's blowing or he may get terminated...

Fish

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j-o-h-n in reply to NPfisherman

He'll BE BACK! 💪

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 03/15/2019 6:34PM DST

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cujoe

After seeing research about sulforaphane and cancer, esp. cancer stem cells, I used Jarrow's BroccoMax for about 6 months. When I read about the superior sulforaphane production of broccoli sprouts, I started sprouting my own. The research indicates the max production of sulforaphane is by 2to3-day old sprouts.

I use them in salads, sandwiches, smoothies, and just about anything else I can throw them into. I keep at least two jars going all the time, so that I always have a fresh supply. I uses them at two-day-plus sprout-time, so I rarely need to store them in the fridge or freeze for later. Since you can use them at their "peak" and can get quality organic/non-gmo seeds to sprout, I think home-grown is the only way to go.

Here are a several videos from NutritionFacts on broccoli/broccoli sprouts and several link to the research abstract about the sulforaphane peak for sprouts. Any search will provide a lot of research to explore.

Broccoli: Sprouts vs. Supplements

nutritionfacts.org/video/br...

Sulforaphane: From Broccoli to Breast

nutritionfacts.org/video/su...

Antioxidants Sprouting Up

nutritionfacts.org/video/an...

Flashback Friday: Second Strategy to Cooking Broccoli

youtube.com/watch?v=Z7P8Gn9...

Physiological and biochemical metabolism of germinating broccoli seeds and sprouts

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/221...

Effect of Sulforaphane in Men with Biochemical Recurrence after Radical Prostatectomy

cancerpreventionresearch.aa...

My personal view is that PCa patients should forget the supplements and just grow their own broccoli sprouts for DAILY consumption. But as Mr. Fish has advised, until your digestive track "adjusts" to daily consumption, you WILL at times produce room-clearing gaseous discharges.

Be Well - cujoe

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NPfisherman in reply to cujoe

Thanks for this wealth of information on the sprouts, Mr Cujoe.....especially compared to the supplements... fresh is better per the video... solid info... guess I am gardening the sprouts this summer...

Have a great day...

Fish

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cujoe in reply to NPfisherman

The Sprout House website has lots of info for the do-it-yourself sprouter. I buy seeds from several sources and always buy organic/non-GMO. My sprouting jars are simple mason jars, with synthetic window screen tops held in place by no-rust retainer rings made by cutting out center of nut-butter jar tops. (The standard metal ones work just fine.) I do use filtered water that sits overnight (to gas off chlorination) for the initial soak and daily rinses as it provides a more neutral environment for the sprouts. I've been at it for over a year and it is now a part of my daily routine.

I do have a relative who got into it big time, with a multi-layered sprouter, etc., but he had such a bad time with the "gas effects", that his wife made him give it up. (You can only blame so much on the dog!) If you have any specific questions, message me and I'll try to answer. Eat Sprouts, Beat Cancer, & Be Well - cujoe

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NPfisherman in reply to cujoe

May take you up on your offer... we have been thinking about buying a dog...may be imperative before beginning my new gardening venture ... (loved the dog comment)...Thank you, my man....

All the best,

Don Pescado...

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cujoe in reply to NPfisherman

Lulu can help you with the dog - as long as it doesn't weigh more than 12 pounds. Just one of the MANY reasons that dogs are man's best friend? (Most dogs I know also love to go fishing - another win-win proposition for you.) Be Well - cujoe

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NPfisherman in reply to cujoe

LuLu helps me daily....with laughter and camaraderie... I am sure he provides you with some of the same.... A great guy, our LuLu... planning a visit to the desert in the fall...

Don Pescado

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cujoe in reply to NPfisherman

You know it!

in reply to cujoe

Uh oh , 3 makes it a conspiracy ...

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NPfisherman in reply to

Holy smokes, Batman... Is the government watching?? Conspiracy to grow sprouts...I'm sure they can find something to charge us with.... my favorite line, "We're with the government and we're here to help..."

Don Pescado

in reply to cujoe

Sprout it up😎

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j-o-h-n in reply to cujoe

I used to blame the dog... Bad move, since I never had a dog....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 03/15/2019 5:28 PM DST

in reply to cujoe

Dr Layla of UMC onocology alt med program here in Tucson told me of B sprouts a few years back . Got the jar and seeds at sprouts . I had kinda stuffed it away for awhile . I’m starting up the farm manana again . Didn’t know about the mustard seeds though for cooked b. Thanks cujoe

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If asked to name the five things that i THINK have contributed to my better than expected outcome with both my cancers (so far), the sulforaphane I get from broccoli sprouts would be at the top of the list. Just sprouting off here. Be Well - cujoe

in reply to cujoe

I love the taste in salads or an eziekial sandwhich .. mmm

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Lika-g in reply to cujoe

How many broccoli sprouts do you take every day?I read that you need to take 140 grams , which is a decent amount...

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patandemma

you don't have to buy expensive fermented sauerkraut from AMZN. It's very easy and cheap to make delicious fermented sauerkraut yourself. Lots of youtube videos. Equipment: a large mason jar,a head of cabbage,salt and dill spice,and and your hands to massage the cabbage until ready to put in the mason jar. at room temp for a few days.

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monte1111 in reply to patandemma

I draw the line at massaging cabbage.

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patandemma in reply to monte1111

just close your eyes and fantasize you are massaging something else

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j-o-h-n in reply to patandemma

I used to do that one handed....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 03/15/2019 5:25 PM DST

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monte1111

Remember telling my brother years ago how to do a simple repair on his auto. He just looked at me and said "Oh, I don't fix them. I just drive them."

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patandemma

just close your eyes and fantasize you are massaging something else

in reply to patandemma

Pure pandemonium ...

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HanswoodRJ

Hi Dorke. Only read this recently and you have probably solved your challenge by now but you can get a high quality freeze dried broccoli sprout powder capsule from dnafood.co.nz. not sure what the freight cost is to US asuing that your base. Check it out. It was reccommended by my maverick GP from whom I get IV vit C. Also growing my own sprouts too so get double dose. Cheers. Ross

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