Is pca truly a cancer or just mother nature selecting me to make way for something else???
Seems like the treatments for pca are just trying trick mother nature.
The trick seems to be turn us into female versions????
Chop balls of
Remove testosterone
Grow moobs
Menopause
I guess it’s dependent on how each individual views the situation. I see this as a life threatening disease. It’s a mean disease, it’s cancer. Since cancer is harsh, so are some of the treatments. I am sure it has been explained to you that testosterone feeds PC; in order to slow the cancer’s growth the body’s production of testosterone must cease. This explains your feelings on PC.
We are not alone. Look at women with breast or cervical cancer - I am sure they have somewhat similar feelings in “becoming” a man.
The question you need to ask yourself is that are you man enough to accept the treatment in order to survive? Or would you just forego treatment and die a painful death? THAT’S the reality of the situation. Consult your doctors, find a support group, please obtain assistance in making your decisions. Best of luck.
Being a man is more than Testosterone and balls
Not to mother nature.....
Mother Nature is both cruel & beautiful, it depends through what rose coloured glasses we view it.
NO Rose colored glasses for me.
I chopped off the balls IMMEDIATELY then had my treatment, accepted the offer to try a never been use Immuno-Injection on a Unique Eunuch like myself and began Testosterone injections shortly after.
Not trying to fool Mother Nature but instead keeping the PCa cells guessing what the hell is going on. Just had another T injection 11 hours ago.
I am very confused, you chopped off the testosterone producers just to replace with artificial testosterone injections? I don't get it.
Biopsy performed by Urologist, he calls and said Very Aggressive PCa and need additional scans. I'm a *worse case scenario* person so did research and saw ADT would be required, I do not care for drugs with untold side effects so the Orchiectomy was better and I had it done.
Did not care for treatment plan that urologist had in mind and instead saw Dr. Onik who at consultation questioned my orchiectomy choice and at that meeting said he would prescribe *T* injections once his treatment was completed.
I said fine and began the *T* injections once he completed my GL10 treatment along with his experimental Immunotherapy Injection. I've been monitoring my numbers and doing my own BAT protocol since 2016.
73yo in July and went out for a 25 mile bicycle ride to watch the SpaceX launch this morning at a good location since I'm 90 miles across the state from Canaveral shortly after 2AM.
You say BAT. I'm not sure of the exact definition. Does ADT have to be in the mix for it to be BAT?
ADT is part and parcel with BAT and that is why my approach is totally outside the box having had the orchiectomy.
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....
Yes, definitely. The main thing is your success with it, which seems to be good.
does it hurt?
Orchiectomy = easy peasy.
In recovery the nurse asked me -- "How are you doing?"
I replied in the highest soprano voice I could muster -- " Very well, thank you."
She left me laughing and told the other nurses.
I tried doing something similar after my total penectomy, couldn't get a laugh, all I wanted to do was braid the nurses hair. It was a tuff crowd.
Tell me, after this do u take anything for prostate cancer?
1 Dutasteride and 1,700mg Metformin a day
well I’ve been lupron then Xtandi for 10 years but I was afraid to highten my psa by going bicycle. Man I’m tired of accommodating for this disease .
Biked 45 miles yesterday and just completed a 40 miler. I am not going to let PCa rule/dictate my life.
Same here, I'm 73 - started last year on tablets Enzulatamide, and a quarterly injection Zoladex. -muscles weak
- no libido
- hot flashes, men-o- pause,
- no erection,
- crying for no reason. (Seeing a disabled dog on telly, for instance)
- mood changes,
Feel like a nutered dog in a good English family. Useless
But that's life, seeing people in their 50s, 40s, and younger in similar state.
Look after yourself, and get people around you all the time. Isolation is counterproductive.
Good luck
My thought is.Are we just trying to trick mother nature.
Or trick a disease.
If it's a true disease, then why is the trick to genetically/hormonally dress up as a female???
(My medicine cabinet is very similar to my Mrs!!!)
I remember a movie in which Arnold Swartzeneger got pregnant.
Oh yes, I think I remember that.It was a Weird documentary on hormone treatment.
Yes I feel the same as shwartzaneger, I empathize with his plight in that documentary
Even bought me to tears.
How did you feel watching it?
It was "Junior", a comedy in 1994, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junio...
I never watched it.
Oh?Was it a comedy?
Are you sure???
Have a watch,
I remember it being used as reference on a few misgendering ted talks.
An interesting peice of work
I hate men!!!
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Friday 05/19/2023 9:15 PM DST
There so brutish!
I guess the same could be said for any life threatening disease, along with the entropy of the aging process, that it’s natures way of getting rid of us all to make way for something/someone else.
But I cannot stress enough the benefits of weight training, no matter how fatigued we feel.
It actually reduces the fatigue along with the other symptoms,.
It also reduces the long term side effects of ADT.
The other thing is to be fanatical about watching our weight. ADT has a tendency to make us gain weight, and of course, fatigue makes it so easy to slip into a weight gaining life style.
Weight training helps with this too.
I'm there at mo!!!I'm in the gym
But.....
Really struggling with food
I've had 50y of eating what I want when I want!
Now I can't seem to reduce my calorie intake in a manageable way
Maybe we start new thread or post on managing weight.
My head is strong
My heart is strong
My body is getting stronger after chemo n radio
So back in gym
But food behaviour all over the place
About 3/4 of a stone over weight
Well, for what it’s worth, here’s what’s worked for me.
Three things.
First I’ve changed to a plant based diet. I just occasionally have meat or dairy. I find I can really fill up on veges without putting on weight. And we’ve found some incredible non meat dishes.
I found that this also Brough my blood pressure down to a healthy level.
Second, I avoid any kind of processed food. They’re nearly always full of salt, sugar and useless calories.
Third, I’ve progressively reduced the size of my evening meal. One thing that’s helped for me on this, is that my wife bought plates about half way in size between dinner and bread and butter plates.
Weird, I know, but somehow, psychologically, the smaller plate looks more full and kind of trick me. 🤗
I now eat about half the amount I used to at dinner time, which also helps me sleep better.
And the thing is, all these strategies are anti cancer too.
So that’s what’s worked for me.
Hope it’s some help for you. 👍😊
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