Custom BAT program

The adaptive approach for Zytiga has been studied. nature.com/articles/s41467-...

BAT has been shown to resensitize cancer cells to Zytiga and Xtandi (the last study that I saw showed a moderate resensitization to Zytiga but very good resensitization to Xtandi).

Zytiga adaptive approach is part of SPT/Deca/ADT-SARMs. The linked research study focuses on Zytiga. Zytiga is used in the ADT-SARMs phase and discontinued in the SPT/Deca phases.

I'm still working on this program and testing it in real-time. Last month my PSA was 0.13, then 0.17 the following week. I started the ADT-SARMs phase in late September and now my PSA is undetectable.

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I heard that a friend of a friend of a long lost friend of a cousin of mine from another country uses chemyo.com

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Please post! I think that the realistic key today is control.

[mrscruffy]

SARMs are easy to get if you know people in the body building world, I was going to take one to increase muscle growth but my Oncologist wasn't comfortable with it

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Not controlled so really easy to get. But flip side is that uncontrolled means vendors don't have to sell you real SARMs.

I don't blame your MO. I'm willing to take the risk but only use small amounts (dang, even small doses work great). And I just had my PSA tested today. Second time in two weeks. If it's high I'll pulse the SARMs. And regardless, I'll add clen. As far as I know it's not the least bit androgenic.

BTW: only been a month but my liver enzymes have hardly budged. And my PCP told me that my kidney function is better than it has been in years. I doubt that's because of the SARMs...

[Jac_J in reply to Hidden]

Which SARMS are you experimenting with?

Could you rate them efficacy vs side effects?

I ordered some MK677 to test the supplier. Should come in 4 days.

Im currently evaluating MK-2866 and LGD-4033 from a side effect perspective and then will order what I believe to be the least harmful.

Great research as usual.

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I don't have much to go on since I just started. I have ostarine and rad140. No sides at this point. Liver enzymes, etc, barely budged. Kidneys better but I doubt it's because of the SARMs. Blood pressure down but probably from not doing testosterone. I also had S4 but I haven't used any. I was thinking of using LGD but had a hard time finding a reputable supplier.

Rad140 supposedly has the highest anabolic/androgenic ratio so that's the only one I'm using. I accidentally took a lot (60 mg/day) but my PSA went to zero. I'm planning on 10 mg / day. Originally I was going to do 3 mg/day. I'm playing around and seeing what I can do without exciting the beast or getting sides.

Thanks for the compliment!

Russ

[clayfin]

Hi Rus - very interested in your experiment - correlates with much of my thinking regarding PCa and testosterone/estradiol link. Can you please give me a link to the chart above. Thanks

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Hi, if you send me your email address in a chat message (don't post it here) I can send it to you. I haven't posted it online yet - a work in progress as I go along. For example, last night I had an idea for variable timing.

I had another PSA test yesterday. Still zero.

Russ

[clayfin in reply to Hidden]

That is good news - are you continuing with Casodex in the zero test cycle?

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No. I used Caso for two weeks.

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Latest BAT+ cycle update. 9 months into BAT+.

I used enough Androgel to get my T up to 5000. The average was probably 2500 for the high T phase. I also injected 100-200 mg of propionate a couple of times.

I injected 200 mg of nandrolone (NPP) 5x in the first 9 days of the high T phase. I did 10-30 mg/day of SARMs (mostly rad-140 but also some ostarine) during the low T phase.

I also used 5 mg/day of cardarine, 5 of YK-11 and 5 of stenabolic on the low T phase.

PSA went to 0.65 at the end of the high T phase, a week later it was 0.71, the following week it was 0.45, the following week 0.10. When I started BAT+ last August it was 0.17.