EBR and ADT ... ALSO DO RECOMMENDED NATUROPATHIC TREATMENT ?

[Nous]

My RO has me on ADT; Eligard every 4 months for two years ... just had my second shot ... and ... am to start EBR; (VMAT) next week. My naturopath is recommending ... to make the EBR more effective and to help with EBR side-effects that ... I add-in Oncothermia and high-dose IV Vitamin C and IV Artemisinin and IV DMSO ... Please share personal experiences and opinions ... Thanks !

[noahware]

My opinion is... what is the RO's opinion of this? And has your naturopath shown you any evidence of benefit of the proposed treatments?

[Tall_Allen]

What is "..."? Whatever it is, clear it with your RO. How are you doing "oncothermia"? It is probably all unnecessary, but I know how it may be helping you feel more in control, and that is important.

The best thing you can do is exercise heavily. CV exercise increases cell oxygenation, which helps the radiation kill cancer cells more effectively, and helps healthy cells repair.

I took low-dose Cialis starting with the first radiation and continuing for 6 months afterwards. It may protect the vasculature that feeds penile tissue.

[dhccpa in reply to Tall_Allen]

Did your RO recommend Cialis?

[Tall_Allen in reply to dhccpa]

My RO doesn't make recommendations - he practices shared decision making more than any other doctor I've met. We discussed the evidence. He pointed out that the evidence is less than definitive, but prescribed it anyway. I got it from a cheap source in India (Alldaychemist.com)

[dhccpa in reply to Tall_Allen]

Yes I've seen that company mentioned on some of the alternative medicine sites.

[Bigm789 in reply to Tall_Allen]

Artemisinin what is the benefit , have 3 lesions, age 51, PSA 2.7 , had 12 core tranperineal biopsy , main core lesion 1) 3+4=7, 40 , 5% G2 right apical lesion slight perineural invasion, TZ G6. 5MM,. and Left medial TZ G6 , 1MM. RO wants to do a right hemelobe, HDR , 2 treatments , 7 days apart leave , left G6, AS. Low risk , try maintain ED and still have ejaculation , claims cure rate 90% . Whats your strategy thought.

[Tall_Allen in reply to Bigm789]

There have been no clinical trials of artemisinin in prostate cancer.

I don't see any compelling reason to stop AS. What is your Decipher score?

[Nous in reply to Tall_Allen]

thanks Tall_Allen ... especially for the tip about the importance of CV exercise

[Hidden]

I would stick with proven treatments that have been tested in clinical trials like ADT and EBRT.

Don't know about the others, but I would want to see some evidence to support using them.

[Nous in reply to Hidden]

thanks for sharing your opinion gregg57

[doc1947g]

My RO prescribed me Calcium 500 mg + Vitamin D 1,000 IU. He also told me to keep taking my Omega-3/1.2 g and my Senior Centrum. Nothing else. The ADT takes care of shrinking the prostate. I had VMAT-RT Hypofractionnated 3 Gy X 20 Fx over the whole pelvic area.

[Nous in reply to doc1947g]

thanks doc1947g

[Hidden]

Most people on this board do not support holistic naturopathic care and are not well versed on them. Honestly, I wouldn't rely on this board for support, opinions, or advice in regards to these .

[j-o-h-n in reply to Hidden]

I guess you know us as well as you know your mirror..... especially since you joined this forum long ago on August 18, 2020.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 10/22/2020 6:46 PM DST

[Hidden in reply to j-o-h-n]

I said "most" and I hardly thinking I'm getting the wrong impression. Even the progression of this post confirms my perceptions. Prove me wrong.

[j-o-h-n in reply to Hidden]

You're wrong.........(now that was easy)...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 10/22/2020 7:16 PM DST

[SPEEDYX in reply to j-o-h-n]

I second that motion

[Hidden in reply to j-o-h-n]

Okayyy. It's quite interesting that you are so insistent on this board promoting holistic methods when clearly it generally doesn't. There's no shame in that. Posts on natural methods are met invariably with folks steering them away from non-conventional methods , and 9 times out of 10 not one person actually answers the OP questions. In this case, the OP asked for experiences and opinions on Oncothermia, high-dose IV Vitamin C, IV Artemisinin, and IV DMSO. Not one person (yet) was able to help with his specific question. This board is a wealth of information and highly valuable , but if someone is seeking assistance with non-conventional means, this is not the best board for them.

[j-o-h-n in reply to Hidden]

FYI there is a Kvetching Dept on HU....(Kvetching means exactly what it sounds like, in case you're wondering)...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 10/22/2020 7:59 PM DST

[Hidden in reply to j-o-h-n]

Perhaps you should check out the gaslighting and STT (Stretching The Truth) dept at HU.

[Nous in reply to Hidden]

thanks for your candidness Hidden

[j-o-h-n]

I excelled in both...............

Now for the spiel:

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j-o-h-n Thursday 10/22/2020 11:05 PM DST

[Nous in reply to j-o-h-n]

j-o-h-n my bio can be found on my profile

[j-o-h-n in reply to Nous]

Thanks for your timely reply........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 11/05/2020 9:16 PM EST

[Mgtd]

Had to smile as I read some of the posts above and wondered what the reaction would be if I went to an alternative cancer site/forum and started recommending using more traditional methods to fight cancer. Enjoy your day!

I am off to review and discuss current research projects with some really bright minds at our local university at their annual “poster” presentation day.