I am prediabetic and cant stop eating chocolate and biscuits cakes...i am part disabled and no friends depressed and live alone. i never used to eat so much sweet stuff ..then I dont sometimes cook have a ready meal . ive never been a fruit lover i buy it and waste it.
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Welcome back, basten
Looking back through your old posts, I see you have a number of health issues that need to be optimally treated for you to have a chance of getting back on an even keel.
I wonder how you're now getting on with your hypothyroidism? If your thyroid hormones aren't being optimally replaced, you will continue to have a whole raft of other symptoms. I would advise you to return to the Thyroid UK forum and seek their assistance.
At one time you were an active member of the LCHF forum, which shows that you at least have some idea of the correct diet to be following for your pre-diabetes, but just in case, here are a few links for you:
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Fruit is not necessary for you, especially with pre-diabetes, far better to concentrate on eating a wide variety of above ground vegetables, especially leafy greens.
Here are some links that may help with your binge eating:
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As a reminder all of the information you need about the forum can be found as Pinned Posts healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh... I hope you'll be joining all the Events, Challenges and Clubs that we run, especially the Weigh-in and Daily Diary.
We've found active participation to be key to successful weight loss and, of course, it's a good way to get to know people, find inspiration and share support and encouragement.
Wishing you all the best
i never had hyothyroidism? thyroids fine. i have gastritis and an antipressant also allows me to eat things i couldnt like cake and choc .i slightly over do it..bowel issues usesless gastros and being told by one basically cos depressed refused tests said mental health ..meat even chicken for me seems harder to digest... low iron b12 low folate. due injections..b12. spoke to volenteeer president b12 society who happened to know when put on loudspeaker the nice gp whose interest is b12 and at least even tho depressed he didnt say all mental health .makes changr..just im complicated..and im still on poison diazepam 6 yesrs for sleep which doesnt do much so hit tolerance .I have tried taper off slowly and main issur is awful pain eating..some get some lucky don't . i have no friends and started comfort eating..caring grown kids live elsewhere nag me..and dont want to hear about my issues all time..so i just talk to myself..and tell myself off..stop eating chocolate . etc ..ive had to be my own advocate for certain issues . i was slightly younger in old posts ..doubt id wht said much changed but quite a bit has. amazed you found them.,and yes I do see a psych whose ok but seen too many in past and sadly most know little of the awful symptoms up to 50 even that benzo withdrawals people have to suffer . most like me taken innocently as prescribed . i may eat fish spinach etc then want chocolate .,slight obsession..answer is don't buy it..being an ex alcoholic one isnt enough .thanks for links.
Thyroid disease is poorly diagnosed and treated around the world and the most knowledgeable people are those that are living with it and have needed to research for themselves. I would still advise you to go back to the TUK forum, because it may be that a lot of your symptoms could be eradicated/reduced if your thyroid was optimally treated.
Good luck!
Simply you can only eat what you buy. Sugar is crazily addictive .Start by planning your eating for the day . Do you eat more of it at a certain time. Could you address this with distraction . To phone a friend for a chat . Visit a neighbour , have a shower etc . Cut down gradually . Try and shop less often . Aim slowly to have full days where you don't have any . Sip on a low cal hot chocolate drink that takes more time than a bar of anything which for me can be eaten so quickly then I wonder if I have actually eaten it . This isn't a don't eat overnight - may take a month or more . You have addressed it is an issue which is the first great step.
Hunger is driven by fructose (fruit a can be up to 55% fructose and table sugar is exactly 50-50 fructose-glucose. Ready meals are high in refined starch which is metabolised into glucose. Glucose blocks the sateity hormone leptin so more glucose drives binge eating.
i did a breath test fructose intolerance . bowel probs vitamin probs depression ..one gp helping re vits .everything too complicated .had enough. can tastr getting up food...i bloat on porridge bread choc gluten free , pasta rice, applee bananas bjscuits sausages chicken ready meal omelette advocado.cake biscuit sweets stools too descriptive need stacks laxatives abdo goes down after bathroom visits. answer is dont eat.
I think that a breath test doesn't indicate fructose intolerance but SIBO which is caused by ingetsing too much sugar, 'fructose intolerance' is a made up thing but if you think you have it why are you still eating fruit and swetened foods? Cut out sugar and gluten and your digestion will improve and you should eventually find that you don't need laxatives.
There is no essential nutrition in carbohydrate so if you avoid it you'll have more room for healthy foods in your diet
p.s always needed laxatives due to slow bowel transit from medications.
I was in hospital for five weeks around 20 months ago and although they gave me laxatives I was severely constipated the whole time. When I got home and back to my normal diet, the very next day I had a normal (though large) bowel movement and I've been as regular as clockwork ever since. The only carbs that I eat is a medium sized potatoa couple of times a week, I eat no grain based foods or swetened foods at all and the only fruit I eat is occasionaly, half a cupful of blueberries a day.
see my posts. are you taking medicine which cause slow bowel transit which i have ...laxatives make bowels lazy. glad you are better. not nice
i recall being on hols march 22 but still 2 laxs..no bread cornflakes porridge no veg rice and fish a chicken kieve bit salad. some tifle. stools were soft and formed. i was on hols with son june 23 no breakfast meds for sleep still ok plus small dose antidep.Ate icecream apple cake decaff cappuccino a sausage few chips small salad. some nuts a pastriie fish leeks courgetta 2 movicol toilet twice day but stacks gas and bloated every pm . which had gone waking..good book called fibre menace. too big stools can indicate constipation. had when a child ..mum ive blocked toilet again..told to eat my greens . in teens would bloat im suure bread cos if going dancing use a suppository before hand..embarrassing in a queue went toilet , huge, wouldn't flush , had to wait for cisterne to refill and get toilet paper and cut in half. flush and pray hard cos ladies all waiting . colic as a child. this is difderent i did beed laxatuves then as wasnt on meds. i know i need help self but feel very low and constantly hungry.
so what about veg. chicken fish breakfast lunch. what do you eat ? i start eating then just want more. sweet stuff used to gjve me a boost not anymore . i see noone except if feel walking shops blank face. dont want get up .dress wash change bed iron , wash hair . can sometimes watch bit TV . a lot in tolerance or tapering benzo feel same. but doc whose knows his b12 stuff says it can xause. no idea about anything.
hello if you get this can you tell me more less what you do eat..i.e break fast lunch dinner..i need to try hard and lose weight..
I eat almost everything apart from processed food and foods made with added refined sugar and foods made from processed grain (i.e. flour) and no refined oil (what's called vegetable oil)I don't eat breakfast most days but when I do i'll just have an avocado, certainly no cereal, toast or fruit juice.
I try to start my evening meal around six and the only thing after that is a cup of green or chamomile tea.
ive tried asking what do you eat breakfast lunch dinner. do you eat veg fish chicken ,,?? may help me
I've said that I don't eat breakfast, lunch varies, but I have a bowl of green salad with a tomato, piece of raw carrot a few wallnuts and a couple of brasil nuts every day and either a bowl of home made butternut squash and sweet potato soup made with a litle onion, coconut, celery, spiced up with a little pbit of chili and coriander leaves. or it might be a couple of rashers of bacon and a fried egg or it may be tuna mayonaise with a small baked potato.
Dinner can be a Thai style stir fry with loads of veg and a diced chicken breast or flaked mackerel or other nights it may be chilli con carne with cauliflower or faggots and peas with cauliflower of fish in bread crumbs with spinach and peas or a chicken casserole or an Indian style chicken curry.
Note, no bread, pasta, rice, chips cereals and no foods with added sugar or 'modified starch'.
Some good ideas for a few different well balanced meals Eryl . Thank you .
They're not well balanced if you still believe in the 1970s food guidelines which many still believe, but they're healthy.
I am living for today . For me the 70’s have gone . I am doing this for life . I want healthy and tasty food . I couldn’t live off lettuce leaves and cucumber. I want to be able to sustain and maintain. I have just had a well woman assessment as at 64 I am enduring a quite physical job . My results gave me no worries so I will use this as a benchmark. Mentally I need decent food . Balance is an individual thing too . My son eats much differently than me but he is super fit - runs marathons , rock climbs and kick boxes but his diet wouldn’t suit me .
I always have a vinegarette on my green salad so it's tasy, has health fats and it's rich in potassium which is good for the blood pressure.
I do as needed to get off salad cream and mayo . Sprinkle herbs and spices on chick peas and tinned lentils . Smoked paprika, cumin, bit of tumeric . Tomato purée is a good standby for mixing with fish , chopped onion . I have stopped buying table sauce . This week is exercise focused . No booze , no snacks . Started last Friday and effortlessly lost 2.5 kg . Daily You Tube Zumba and a good cycle on the exercise bike . Can’t do this forever but the weight crept on .
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i was able to eat anything thanjs to an antidepressant no pain . now it hardly helps. with my assume still got gastrtitis . its the sugar addiction .hight fat etc.. i see a psych and he knows u don't want to be here. have fructose probs everything going wrong . in pain cos kf my stupidity ..on my mind all time is benzoes and gastros let me down .too tired to fight anymore . only here cos if my kids
you on meds that cause slow bowel. ? right now 1970s food or whatever good for you .
no friends . live alone 2 grown kids live elsewhere. i buy it say no, but do. throw in rubbish then rummage to get it out. rarely go out. depressed i have slow bowel transit from meds ..need loads extra laxatives plus senna
bloat on chocolate bread pasta rice gluten free crumpets , apples banana, advocado, omelette cheese cake biscuits ready chicken meal , porridge, stools float loads bits sometimes oil on water greasy.Or huge bowl slop. abdomen goes down after few bathroom visits ..did a home elaistaise test said slightly low. saw new gastro looked at poo pics oh yes can see some oil droplets. was going do colonoscopy sibo elastaise changed mind said see mental health provider..and was sure my usual gastro will see me again . he wasnt gonna do anthing...a gp agreed to nhs elastaise said normal .n.now b12 bit low, folate anaemic..gotta have b12 injections .etc. nice gp said i wasnt nuts. .now tolerance to fructose test i did ..took obtibac before ate choc then cake no bloating drank 8 movicol senna wanted toilet couldn't go..awake most night ...took dulease liquid .got up went see new gp well good you seeing gastro august..i could still taste choc i said eaten 2 pm day before .told can losen les. Google for fructose foods. left walked shops still brought biscuits..had had decaff cappuccino . in shop needes toilet huge pile slop . homeb3 biscuits, big pile slop again,, still hungry ate some cheese another toilet visit..done my own elastaise stool test again double check . dont realise im eating so much . and its comfort eating as feek alone and noone cares. both gastros hsve had emails snd poo picks . apparently they discussing me. Once labelled depression it seems that's cause of floating hard oftrn to flush stools . and even after the cheese found 2 small dairy free bars choc jn cupboard ..no yes gone .heart monitor to wear nexg week. if see son stop laxatives mum and get told off passing gas. yes its addictive and its like weating blinkers..i was an alcoholic and one was never enouth. i brought f,erro roche for a present . pooped ferro roche. im on a med for sleep which hit tolerwnce and tried come off slow and its hell so everything is getting me down ..kjds say jm snappy and dont want hear about illnesses..but love me..
You are going through too much . Please go and seek medical advice and tell them what you are experiencing. With better guided food plan you can and will improve . I ate badly , had no energy and ended up with related issues - hiatus hernia and gall bladder removal. I got help . I kept to the meal plans - I wasn’t kidding myself any longer . I felt much better after about 2 weeks . I started to exercise , lost weight, found friends via the group exercise sessions . It is crazy hard but my alternative lifestyle was punishing and even harder . Do this for you . At least try it as what you have written is truly not great .
i cant type well..ive stopped nearly every thing that bloats. exercise ! i can walk thats it 75..ok being old if healthy. 2 leg ops same leg in 2 weeks.. plays up a bit.. seek help .joke..2 gastros no help . given up on doctors ..app for b12 society explains a lot ..yes i know sugar can give you a boost then a downer. the only thing hard is the chocolate a biscuit..ears hiss, diazepam hit tolerance .still take some sleep better than none.. two antipressants dont help .been on 25 meds in 30 years . diaz can eventually cause depression so can low b12..glad you feel better. thanks .ears hiss .too. cant repeat what said already. see a psych all they want to do is give you more meds . time to sign off .spoken nice lady on here too. shes down from 45 to 40 benzo no problems ..yet. i cut 0.5 and agony eating worse each cut..plus other sxs. some same most lucky eat ok..my thyroid is ok.. apathy no enthusiasm . shouldnt have posted on here again..fructose breath test done. sibo still to do..gp said google fructose . i rarely eat fruit a banana. bed now take meds abd and damn wake up tomorrow i spose. happy not to. still have gastritis anti dep helps that.
Please - ignore the typing . From what you are experiencing and expressing I would go into a GP appointment with a few notes . What you are eating , your physical health experiences and what you want from this chat . I am only saying this as I get into a face to face conversation and then regret not addressing certain issues/ topics . You are very expressive and because you have a lot going on I would take a list . I have ended up getting nowhere but then wondering why . With me it was because I had so much to discuss but was a bit thrown once I got in the surgery having waited past my time . I over thought then mentioned about half of my problems. I wish you all the best . Please get on the phone , get local support. Wishing you all the best . You deserve it .
thanks. I talk about things to be. yes but how can i help you what is your main concern . .well...ok well not much i can do about that . sorrt ive other patients to see and youve seen 2 gastros and I can see what they've said. is there anything else. yes going to jump off a bridge.(big smile)
Don’t give up . Be strong . Yes - see the funny side great but people use this site for support and help . We aren’t as unique as we think we are . Loads on here are struggling but we are all important and I have had real encouragement from many . Sadly I can only read / take advice but realise I need to push myself .
i know the depression is the diazepam . i need to try taper off again. i cant explain it to anyone .they say oh that won't be easy and no matter how slow you reduce noone ynderstands unless been through it. no gp no psych. its affected my brain..on the fb group example someone writes why cant i do things i used to .my place is a mess paperwork and it's not me ......thats me and they are tapering..or you read....i cant di this anymore ...all replies are you can hang on youre healing .....or ..im a year off , i can laugh again do things.....then they get hit by a wave .....i waa doing so well now i feel im going backwards ...youve only been off a year , it's early days . they call it windows and waves. a window is a good time, a wave no .some get no windows. thata me evert reduction my main symptom waa incredible pain eating.
Oh yes there are a lot of buzz words . Yes - I do know as aged 16 I was in a similar place . ECT , little blue pills , lorazepam- , priadel, you name it as a result of some “caring “ adults being too caring . I actually went cold turkey but I was younger with a different network and no pressure of adult living . It is hard . My sister is seriously mentally ill but hey - you have to find someone to not only listen but direct to a realistic schedule that’s why I attend her meetings armed with a pen and paper . Could you take anyone with you - family member even one that doesn’t live with you . Unless you go in very assertive- yes it’s hard with specific questions that need at least a sentence to answer then you get nowhere . I have had my say now and am hoping others reply to you as that is all I can suggest.
hi basten,
Your situation sounds very bad and there seems to be an awful lot going on for you.
Aside from the terrible problems you are having with digestion ( which must be distressing and very painful, it sounds as if you are quite depressed and feel out of options. Please know you are not alone in this, even though it might seem that way.,
You said in your last post that you shouldn’t have posted here again. Is that because it makes you feel worse? Or because you feel unsupported? Or something else? I am just trying to understand.
I have crohnes disease and I suffer from severe depression, I also have a sweet tooth 😁. So, whilst I don’t understand all of what is going on for you, and I am not medically trained, I can empathise a little. There are lots of us on this site with a host of lived expertise and I am sure you would be welcome to join in the mutual support that is offered.
However as the others have said, please seek proper medical advice. If it is overwhelming could you write a list of the things that are worrying you ( your digestion, your depression for example) and take that to the GP? It would open up the conversation.
I know from my experience, that it will be a very long and difficult process but you are worth it and you deserve the best health you can have.
Please come back and tell us how you get on.
known by my surgery for writing stacks letters to them some even i cant read .told please dont. too long no time. i get that. gastro too but said my way of coping. I am passed from one gp told see anither who knows me .yes told im complicated .most tests show all ok if its when trying comr off diaz or bad coming off another med tests show nothing .wontif it's nerve endings . told off for saying what fb groups say if coming off a med or benzo.sad cos most gps psychs medics dont realise the pain and suffering people go through getting off a benzo and a lot like me see gps etc and nothing wrong . but told always see gp if feel bad. . i know what they think of me. called surgery this morning crying as had enough . put on waiting list to get a call. 4pm spoke gp,explained re elastaise tests i did and re b12 and i said i know im complicated, yes you are best you see dr as hes dealing with you at mo re b12 ill nake appt for you to see him . despite telling her my elastaise result .noone wants to know and i may as well not bother . im just a burden to everyone even my kids
I am sorry that this is happening to you, it must be very very lonely.
I am getting from what you are writing that you feel a burden to everyone, and that you might not bother. I don’t think you should have to face those feelings alone. Have you shared those feelings with anyone in your GP practice?
Arm I right in thinking you are trying to reduce you use of benzodiazepines? Are you getting proper support for this? From your Surgery, a specialist mental health nurse/ medication support nurse or similar? Reducing benzodiazepines is a very traumatic time, it’s not something to do without proper support from a professional.
You don’t need to write a lot, but just a short sentence - to say just how down and a burden you feel. Or, if you can’t face your GP, is there a health visitor, social worker or even someone like The Samaritans?
I really hope you can do this. Please let us know how you get on.
who on which site group for support ? im too complicated. i wish but who.plus i ask question and dont get replies.
no still take 10mg for sleep..i tried to taper off once couldnt cope back same dose..yes seen psych my choice if want come off, maybe reduce 1mg every 4 days..posted on benzo group i knew what theyd say....no no no waaaay to fast..i do have a 10 month taper plan reduce 0.5 every 2 4 weeks . ive tried got down , to 3.5 couldn't cope .gp who knew me retired.. shes only one whosw said sorry this has happen ed to you. even gastro said that wont br easy..theyve no clue at all. wish too late never innocently took them again as came off 7 years ago and pain eating so bad couldn't hardly eat lost so much weight .oother symptoms different ones up to 18 months . that bad not realising it was drug i o.d 3 times .went back on for sleep. once in a pych ward he said i blame your gp..wanted to ct the zopiclone 1mg clonazepam (on then) and amitryp.. no way..still cut 1mg clon to 0.5 ..5 weeks of ever in life 3 day panic attacks.
now just got a new report from another company elastaise good..different company electaise 81 told by person in fb group 81 pancreatic insuffiency .. thankyou cant talk anymore ..thank you .
just being chucked from one gp to another. samaratans ir crisis team number i have just listen but cant help tell yoy make a cup of tea. ask what do you do blah blah . done and paid for so many stool tests one said low elaistaise .gp with another company said its good abd as id done 3 with them woukdnt do again..now im stuck re floating stools and often oil on water. gps onr said normal..no point anymore..probably the drug . ignored son and brother in laws calls last evenjng..dont want to talk anyone..kids say just come off the diaz ...none has a clue .
thats ok no sorrys needed . I see a psych again September. i dont know if you have seen one ever but i am not alone in saying they are useless and mine even suggested i go swimming..he knows i have difficulty walking . says maybe move to retirement flat..oh dear . and when one has been in hospital and a psych with 25 years experience wanted to just stop clonazepam zopliclone and amitryp ...jesus that could have given me seizures.!!!. thanks anyway . im a nut case so everyone thinks. I am 75 and tired of not getting answers to my bowels probs and angry at myself , too late , for taking a prescribed med innocently for sleep , which i only discovered with fb groups circa 2020 should not be taken max 2 weeks . the psych says he has patients on much higher doses . i thought poor buggars they may feel great even for years until they hit tolerance and need to come off. I am too outspoken and thats my problem and shouldnt have come back on here. meanwhile i continue to bloat etc and -yes quite happy to not wake up. at least problems solved.
Break this down - meds - what am I taking , what are they for and are they hindering my progress by making me sluggish both mentally , physically and emotionally. What can I eat to make my life easier and better . Can I have an eating plan that compliments my medication and helps me feel better than I am right now. Simple questions which would make any medic have to think. Stick to the eating plan with a diary .Ask for a prebooked appointment for a month . I messed up , ate badly but wind on realistically 5 years and I am a different person .
Hi Basten. It made me a little sad to read your posts, it seems like many of your issues may be agravated by loneliness and depression.I have had a severe depressive episode myself, luckily for me, some years ago and I was able to get back to myself. Do your children know how bad things are for you. They cannot solve your issues but if they don’t know about them they won’t understand. Although one can only ever have virtual friends on sites like these , this forum is very supportive and sometimes virtual friends are easier to talk to. If your gp surgery is unhelpful maybe consider a different approach, counselling, or join something local. Go to the pub and play dominoes, go to the library and ask for a book recomendation. Sadly I think for older people it is more and more necessary to make yourself visible. I really do wish you well.
kids know but not what eat and theydont want hear my issues anymore .son has said have a bun but not whole lot. if i say anything like im in pain well what have you eaten..um..some cake .well there yiou go.me and pubs ;nearest i know its changed now. -cant concentrate reading . not much where live to do ..nice folk here but find me too hard and dont know what to say as tried. get support here but where.ask a question and no reply . they have own issues .thankyou --glad you better
Thank you. I can only really add to my previous comment by saying every day is a new opportunity to try to make a change. People do generally respond on here, I have found, if you join in, maybe offer some support to others. But I wish you well, have a better day today if you can.