bio identical thyroxin?

[ritz]

does anyone here take bio identical thyroxin?

someone told me their friend takes it after failing on levo for many years - now much improved

anyone take it of been to the marion gluck clnic?

[Clarebear]

I wasn't aware that there was such a thing? Do you mean it's natural desiccated thyroxine?

[helvella Administrator]

What is "bio-identical thyroxin"?

I know of no product I'd call that.

Rod

[roslin]

Isnt that another term for NDT?

Roslinxx

[ritz]

no it's not ndt

someone was telling me about it last week and how her friend had tried levo and become very ill on it, like me, but had gone to mariongluckclinic.com/ in london and was now in bio identical thyroxin and greatly improved..................so i wondered what others had heard about it??

[helvella Administrator in reply to ritz]

I went to the site but could not see anything useful. You get directed to another site:

specialist-pharmacy.com/

But on Gluck's own site it says:

Abnormal thyroid function is very common. There are many causes and types of thyroid problems and you will be carefully assessed to ascertain your particular condition. Some thyroid conditions can be treated nutritionally whilst others require hormone intervention.

Often thyroid conditions are closely related to other hormone conditions. We will always assess your overall hormone levels to identify any other imbalances that may exist.

mariongluckclinic.com/our-s...

It does NOT say "bio identical hormone" but simply "hormone".

Rod

[ritz in reply to helvella]

mmmm it seems to be a slightly wooly term..........it's beginning to sound like: " i had a friend who had a friend who had a malicious cure"..........

googling also produced woolyness

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to ritz]

I go to Dr Gluck for bio-hrt. They make up the prescription in their lab at Specialist Pharmacy at Queen Mary. I assume that they make bio-identical thyroid hormone in the same way. Why not ask her? She's a bit a scary, but listens.

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Ooops, or phone Kym at Specialist Pharmacy and ask.

[ritz in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

ah thanks A, i will see what i can find out from them

[helvella Administrator in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

I sincerely doubt they do - by any definition I can think of.

The only thyroid hormones which are licensed in the UK are Levothyroxine sodium and Liothyronine sodium - both are available as tablets or injections.

Two possibilities - they are supplying either standard Levothyroxine sodium (or have combined both Levothyroxine sodium and Liothyronine sodium). Or they are supplying desiccated thyroid of some sort.

To be stepping outside standard practice and supplying a product that is based on different active ingredients, which to the best of my knowledge are not used anywhere else in the world, is a big step with a lot of responsibility.

The prescribing doctor would have to record their reasons for doing so and take full responsibility.

The MHRA and others who control medicines in various ways understand that some patients require substances not normally allowed. But to set up a practice which repeatedly does the same thing is questionable. And to set up a pharmacy to supply that is also questionable. In the USA at least one "compounding pharmacy" company has been investigated in depth because their operation amounted to small-scale manufacture rather than strictly compounding for individuals. Yes - that is the USA. But I suspect our controlling bodies would have a similar opinion.

Further, there were good technical reasons for the "sodium" part of standard levothyroxine when the products were first being formulated and investigated.

Rod

[louise52 in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Hi im thinking of going to see her as conventional hrt not working for me...making me worse..think im intolerant....wondering if its worth the money as i live in Ireland...im early menopause so aware i need to take sth