ThyroCLR.... Anyone taking / heard of it??

[Tracey76]

Hi folks,

I was just wondering if anyone has heard of or taken ThyroCLR? Has it helped ? Any side effects?

thanks

Tracey

[helvella Administrator]

Tracey,

Anyone suffering significant hypothyroid symptoms is probably between needy and desperate. So anything that appears to offer an answer has huge appeal. When I first started to learn about thyroid I saw all sorts of things that looked promising but gradually started to see by far the majority as exploitation of the hypothyroid suffers.

I know nothing about ThyroCLR. So I went to the company’s web site to check out what the product actually is.

The testimonials bear names that are so extraordinarily rare that some are unique (i.e. I could not find two of the names on the internet except advertising the product). And a testimonial based on two days of taking the product (as one of them claims) is taking the something else.

The claimed medical endorsement from Dr Barbara Gasnier is just for selenium – not for this product. That of Dr Nilesh P. is entirely unverifiable.

The product claims to have 14 ingredients –but absolutely no information on quantities. If you took this would you have any idea whether you should then be careful not to take any extra selenium? Or might you need to have an additional few micrograms to have as much as you feel you need? (And so on through all the ingredients.) Further you have no idea whether the selenium is organic (e.g. selenomethionine) or inorganic form (e.g. sodium selenite or sodium selenite). Remember, excess selenium is potentially dangerous.

The product contains iodine. The issue of whether or not you should take iodine when suffering from Hashimoto’s in particular is not easily settled. However, if I were to decide to try iodine, I would take it entirely separately to anything else simply to ensure that I could adjust my intake precisely and independently of other things.

The website is full of weasel words such as “Yes, ThyroCLR contains safe all natural ingredients.” – But it does NOT say that it contains ONLY safe ingredients. (Nor does it say it contains "only natural ingredients" - whatever that might mean.) Nor can it ever honestly claim to be safe. After all, if you don't need any part of it, the product might be providing you an excess of any of its ingredients that could be bad for you.

Read the returns policy before you think you can simply return the product and get a refund.

The site of full of bad English and bad grammar.

To put it simply. I would not touch this product under any circumstances. Others may well have different views.

I obviously cannot answer whether it has helped anyone or if it has any side effects.

All the best

Rod

[Tracey76 in reply to helvella]

Thank you Rod... You advice is greatly appreciated.

[Tracey76 in reply to helvella]

ThyroCLR Ingredients: (amounts per serving - 2 capsules. 1 taken in the morning and 1 in the evening). %Daily Value

Vitamin B-12 (cyanocobalamin) 100mcg 1667%

Iodine (from kelp) 150mcg 100%

Magnesium(oxide) 200mg 50%

Zinc (oxide) 8mg 53%

Selenium (amino acid chelate) 200mcg 286%

Copper (oxide) 200mcg 10%

Manganese (amino acid chelate) 2mg 100%

Molybdenum (amino acid chelate) 50mcg 67%

L-Tyrosine 300mg

Schizandra (herb powder) 160mg

Coleus Forskohlii (herb powder) 160mg

Ashwagandha Root (herb powder) 120mg

Bladderwrack (herb powder) 50mg

Cayenne Pepper (herb powder) 30mg

other ingredients: gelatin, cellulose, magnesium stearate & silicon dioxide.

[helvella Administrator in reply to helvella]

Tracey,

Glad you got that - I am pretty sure it wasn't on their own site:

thyroclr.com/faq.htm

Where did you manage to find those details?

If that list is saying that the two tablets contain 200mcg of selenium (as I think it is, and the 286% figure supports), then that is towards four times the current recommended intake from all sources according to this source:

ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/s...

Sure we are sceptical about many of the 'official' figures, but that is a lot more than I would take.

I am also wondering whether they are claiming that it has Iodine from kelp AND Bladderwrack? If so, that is a whole lot of iodine. As I said earlier, if I were convinced to take iodine, I would want to be able to adjust the dose precisely and independently.

All the best

Rod

[Tracey76 in reply to helvella]

Hi Rod,

I got my hands on a bottle of thyroclr (thanks to a friend)...

It does say, against all the "(herb powder)", "Daily Value not established." So would that not suggest that the Iodine is from the Kelp and that the Bladderwrack is over and above that?

Also, just as a matter of interest what are your thoughts on the below link:

wellnessresources.com/healt...

Many thanks

Tracey

[helvella Administrator in reply to helvella]

Tracey,

I agree - it certainly does suggest that is additional iodine.

I did follow that link. Again, with all these products, I would far rather retain full control over the amounts of each ingredient and the form in which it is provided. After taking them for a while, I might then choose a combined product, but pretty much only for economy and convenience. And not if I could not find one that suited me.

(Note: The above is not a critique of the ingredients of those products.)

May I ask if you think that you have a partially working thyroid that could be coaxed to produce a bit more by supplying these 'nutrients'? Most likely your diet is providing enough of them - after all, your thyroid isn't being asked to make the full thyroid hormone requirement. Sounds to me like a small increase in dose may be a more effective approach?

All the best

Rod

[Tracey76 in reply to helvella]

Hi Rod,

Thanks for that.

I've had an under-active thyroid since (rather diagnosed) when I was 9 yrs old. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's over 7 years ago now... I have been to a few endo's and one (Prof Ariel Lant) said that he would be very surprised if my thyroid was producing anything naturally as the antibodies were so high.

I am currently on 200mcg of Levothyroxine and have suggested to my doc that maybe reducing that and supplementing with T3... no luck there!

my recent bloods results suggest that I am being over diagnosed

T3 4.7 pmol/L

T4 19 pmol/L

TSH <0.05mU/L

I did ask for antibodies but the doctor said that they of no importance and would test for them.

I did take an extra pill (self diagnosed to see how I would feel) for a few days. I did start to feel a little better but as it was only for 4 or 5 days I couldn't be sure.

Kind regards

Tracey

[Tracey76 in reply to helvella]

sorry... he wouldn't test for anitbodies :o) (re-read what I wrote)

[trw99 in reply to helvella]

there are different types of kelp and Bladderwrack is a variety of kelp

the kelp as i understand normalise the thyroid

that is if the thyroid is over active it reduces the activity

if the thyroid is underactive it increases the activity

so it goes both ways

i understand certain nuts contain selenium and also brewers yeast contain selenium

[helvella Administrator in reply to helvella]

It would be truly wonderful if that were the case. But the story of iodine and thyroid disorders is complex. And I certainly don't claim to understand it all. But I am sure that iodine supplementation is not something that should be done without considerable research and thought.

Bladderwrack is not kelp. But people have quite often wrongly classified it as a kelp.

Certain nuts, e.g. brazil nuts, do indeed contain selenium. But the amount is quite variable which makes it difficult to ensure any specific intake from them.

Yeast can only contain selenium if the substance it grows on has that selenium present. Commercially they do grow yeast on a selenium-rich substrate in order to produce a selenium yeast for sale in various forms.

All the best

Rod

[koikk74 in reply to helvella]

Hi Tracey - It looks like you tried ThyroCLR . Any benefit you experienced with this product? Is it worth spending the money?

[Sparkle50]

Hi Tracey, I know this post was 6 yrs ago but I am thinking of seeing Prof Ariel Lant please could you give me your opinion on him. Many thanks

[DiaH in reply to Sparkle50]

Hi Sparkle50,

I arrived here looking for information on Dr. Ariel Lant. Have you eventually seen him? Thank you!

Diana