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HI all

I have been diagnosed with B12, thyroid and vit D deficeny

I have developed joint pain in my knee. This is not muscle pain but where around the upper part of the knee bend.

if others have also experienced the same if so what is the best home remedy and/or medicine that has worked for them?.

I do take the vitamin D supplement weekly

Regards

Anuj

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What are your current thyroid and vitamin results and ranges

How much levothyroxine are you currently taking

Which brand of levothyroxine and is it same brand at each prescription

EXACTLY what vitamin supplements are you currently taking

How much vitamin D ……and does it include vitamin k2

Are you also taking separate magnesium supplement

Any B12 or vitamin B complex

is your hypothyroidism autoimmune?

ALWAYS test early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

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Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

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Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

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Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

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If you normally take levothyroxine at bedtime/in night ...adjust timings as follows prior to blood test

If testing Monday morning, delay Saturday evening dose levothyroxine until Sunday morning. Delay Sunday evening dose levothyroxine until after blood test on Monday morning. Take Monday evening dose levothyroxine as per normal

Monitor My Health (NHS private test service) offer thyroid and vitamin testing, plus cholesterol and HBA1C for £65

(Doesn’t include thyroid antibodies)

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10% off code here

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IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 3-5 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

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In days before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12 if last test result serum B12 was below 500 or active B12 (private test) under 70

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cyberbarn

Don't forget Hickham's Dictum: Patients can have as many diseases as they damn well please.

When you have new symptoms it is worth getting them checked out as this could be something completely separate to thyroid problems.

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thyroidsymtoms in reply tocyberbarn

I am getting checked though from my experience I have realised GP dont have time to think and it helps if know. As GP takes year to diagnose the ailment. My existing ailment where not diagnosed for years .

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humanbean

My husband, who does not have thyroid disease, had big problems with his knees some years ago. He found it practically impossible to bend his knees because it was too painful when he got on and off his train to work. He found that high strength cod liver oil capsules helped fix the problem. Cod liver oil capsules claim to contain vitamin D, Vitamin A, EPA and DHA.

I have had issues with my knees in the past, and in my case my vitamin D was below optimal so I took 4000 iU vitamin D3 daily and that improved my joints and reduced pain in several places, including my knees.

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Rub ancient minerals magnesium oil on it...

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connyankee

There are all kinds of videos on Youtube with exercises to strengthen the muscles around the knee. Also check out Dr. Jin Sung's Youtube videos regarding water fasting and how that clears up achy joints and all kinds of other great health and healing benefits. I'm working up the nerve to try a 3-day water fast. Best of luck. Take care.

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This may come as a complete and utter shock to you, but muscles that are triggered can refer pain to locations other than the muscles themselves. In other words, your quadriceps muscle can refer pain directly to your knee joint, making it appear as though you have a joint issue.

"I do take the vitamin D supplement weekly"

That's good, just keep in mind that until your vit d blood level reaches an optimal level for your body, you'll continue to feel symptoms related to that deficiency.

How to Differentiate Muscle-Related Pain from Joint Pain:

*Trigger points are often tender when directly pressed or massaged, reproducing or intensifying the referred knee pain.

*Muscle pain tends to ease temporarily after massage, stretching, or heat application, whereas joint damage may not.

*Joint pain usually involves swelling, instability, or clicking sensations; pure muscular trigger point pain rarely causes true joint swelling or joint instability.

Common Misdiagnoses Due to Trigger Points:

Trigger points around the knee are frequently mistaken for:

Meniscus tears

Ligament sprains (ACL, MCL, LCL injuries)

Patellar tendonitis

Patellofemoral pain syndrome (runner's knee)

Knee osteoarthritis

Examples of Muscles Mimicking Joint Pain:

Quadriceps trigger points (especially vastus medialis and rectus femoris) can mimic patellar tendonitis or patellofemoral pain syndrome, creating anterior knee pain that seems joint-related.

IT Band/Tensor Fasciae Latae trigger points often mimic lateral knee pain similar to lateral meniscus or ligament injuries.

Hamstrings and Popliteus trigger points can feel exactly like posterior joint pain or deep knee joint injuries.

Suggestion:

Before someone convinces you to have surgery, do yourself a favor and press your fingers up and down along your thigh. If you detect pain (like a bruise) there, the chances are good that it's a myofascial trigger point and you can resolve this on your own. What can cause trigger points?

"Nutritional deficiencies such as Vitamin C, B1, B12, B6, Folic Acid, Malic Acid and Magnesium can all potentiate myofascial pain. These critical nutrients get depleted when stress, poor nutrition, poor sleep, excessive exercise and isolated areas of repetitive stress occur."

"Hypothyroidism, even when marginal, can produce muscular irritability and perpetuate myofascial pain. When T3 and T4 levels drop, the primary thyroid hormones, this can give rise to energy deficient contractures and trigger points that are violently irritable."

evolutionsannapolis.com/myo...

By the way, I speak from personal experience, having had the same knee issue.

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