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hello lovely group,

I’ve been hypo since 2002 and generally felt good recently I’ve been feeling more tired, put on weight, my memory is shot and feel like I have an IBS reaction to so many foods

After getting advice on here, I’ve recently had a blood test to check my thyroid, iron, B12 etc. which…have come back ‘normal’ (yes I know, what is normal?) I stopped all my supplements in advance - Iron & B complex, D3 & K2 7 days in advance I’m on HRT and didn’t stop that

They tested my FT4 but not FT3, iron & B12 levels and the usual TSH and I also got an antibody test for Hashimotos which I don’t know how to interpret so could do with some help.

For completeness I’ve put the results here, which I’m not sure how to interpret other than they look ok?

Serem TSH: 1.01 mu/L [0.35 - 4.94]

Serum free T4: 14.8 pmol/L [9.0 - 19.1]

Ferritin: 30 ug/L [23.0 - 300.0]

Serum thyroid peroxidase antibody concentration: 6.0 ku/L [0.0 - 34.0]

Liver function tests

Serum bilirubin level: 7 umol/L [< 21.0]

Serum total protein level: 69 g/L [60.0 - 80.0]

Serum albumin level: 40 g/L [35.0 - 50.0]

Serum globulin level: 29 g/L [21.0 - 35.0]

Serum alkaline phosphatase level: 48 u/L [30.0 - 130.0]

Serum alanine aminotransferase level: 22 u/L [< 34.0]

Serum gamma-glutamyl transferase level: 14 u/L [< 38.0]

B12 & serum Folate

Serum vitamin B12 level: 431 ng/L [187.0 - 883.0]

Serum folate level: 14.8 ug/L [3.1 - 20.5]

thanks for any guidance :)

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What thyroid hormone replacement are you on, and how long have you been on that dosing?

If you are supplementing iron, you need regular full iron panels done.

Excess iron is toxic and causes permanent damage to your organs and tissues.

Your ferritin is very low. But it’s possible to have high iron and low ferritin, so an iron panel is needed so you can continue supplementing safely.

Others will be along with more methodical responses on your thyroid (you need a FT3 when getting the others to get a complete picture of your thyroid health, so may consider getting a private test.) Have you ever had a TGab in addition to the TPOab you have? And your Bs aren’t terrible, but lower than we’d like to see - b12 upwards of 500 and folate top of range at 20.

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SandSMS in reply toFallingInReverse

thank you for replying so quickly - I’ve been on Levo 125mg for about 20 years which was reduced to 100mg about 14 months ago. This was based on my TSH being too high - it was checked and rechecked over about 9 months and remained high and I also began to lose weight.

Since the reduced dose, the tiredness and weight gain has come but I’ve only really woken up to the importance of FT3 & FT4 in recent months thanks to this forum.

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FallingInReverse in reply toSandSMS

Well then, you might have answered your own question!!!

It is entirely insufficient to adjust dosing based on TSH… as you are experiencing.

Now, it might not be your thyroid, but unless you get a TSH, FT4 and an FT3 at the same time you’ve never know.

Confounding why doctors will do a million tests when presented with a question like yours, when the first step could be just those 3!

Did you feel ok 14 months ago?

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SandSMS in reply toFallingInReverse

Yep - it is perplexing! They seem so resistant to a patient advocating for themselves, it’s the same with HRT

I felt really good but was also often dizzy with some heart palpitations so it wasn’t all rosy.

I still feel dizzy sometimes now but the heart palpitations have stopped. It’s just really hard to know what is the right balance without having all the facts.

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FallingInReverse in reply toSandSMS

It will be easier once you have the right numbers. Share when you get them.

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I’ve been on Levo 125mg for about 20 years which was reduced to 100mg about 14 months ago. This was based on my TSH being too high - it was checked and rechecked over about 9 months and remained high and I also began to lose weight.

You probably meant TSH was too LOW

When taking too much levothyroxine TSH drops low and Ft4 is high

HOWEVER dose levothyroxine should never be adjusted just looking at TSH and Ft4

ESSENTIAL to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together and maintain GOOD vitamin levels

For conversion of Ft4 to Ft3 you need good vitamin levels too NHS, especially ferritin

If vitamin levels are low this results in high Ft4, low TSH…..but low Ft3

So you feel hyper with too much Ft4 but remain hypo with low Ft3

Thyroid antibodies

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high TPO and/or high TG thyroid antibodies

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Significant minority of Hashimoto’s patients only have high TG antibodies (thyroglobulin)

NHS only tests TG antibodies if TPO are high

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

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Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Vitamin levels

I stopped all my supplements in advance - Iron & B complex, D3 & K2 7 days in advance

Your ferritin is terrible/deficient at 30

Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first and retest 3-4 times a year if self supplementing.

It’s possible to have low ferritin but high iron

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

If taking any iron supplements stop 2-3 days before testing

Medichecks iron panel test

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No vitamin D result?

B12 and folate

With serum B12 result below 500, (Or active B12 below 70) recommended to be taking a separate B12 supplement as well as a separate vitamin B Complex 

Then once your serum B12 is over 500 (or Active B12 level has reached 70), you may be able to reduce then stop the B12 and just carry on with the B Complex.

If Vegetarian or vegan likely to need ongoing separate B12 few times a week

Highly effective B12 drops

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Or

B12 sublingual lozenges

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In-depth article on different forms of B12

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In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12 if last test result serum B12 was below 500 or active B12 (private test) under 70

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was test early morning and last dose Levo 24 hours before test

Free T4 (fT4) 14.8 pmol/L (9 - 19.1) 

Ft4 only 57.4% through range

Request small increase in Levo to 112.5mcg

Retest in 8-10 weeks

Which brand of levothyroxine are you taking

Do you always get same brand at each prescription

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