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I was observed in Adenbrooks hospital 1994 as having a goitre. Put on levothyroxine ever since. Always cold, always tired easily. Always overweight. Year before last I discovered on utube, Dr ken berry, and Dr Unwin (liverpool) who advise a ketogenic diet. Felt improved, so moved on to carnivore only last year. Felt better, trying one drop of Lugol's 2% iodine now every other day, as this provides the daily RDA of iodine which I can never have had in my life !!!!!!? I have lost about 20 lb, but have gained some muscle. I can walk further than ever, am able to wake up earlier and go to bed later, I do lift some light weight about twice a week. I have a more positive outlook on life. I am 72 in march.

I have twice a year blood tests, Hba1c and Triglycerides are very low. Just had Cystatin c done, better figures than eGFR. NHS GPs do not test for T3 only TSH. So my TSH last year was v.hi. T4 and T3 v.lo.

This year TSH lower, T3 &4 getting towards middle range. So TSH is not shouting for more T4,

and thyroid gland is starting to cope. The thyroid itself is getting smaller, not so big and puffy, smaller nodules etc. I am not giving advice, just stating what I am doing for myself.

There are videos re Dr Kellog, Dr keays and the start of modern medicine with the Rothchild family that are worth a look. Good hunting Col.

How much IODINE is too much?? please see Dr ken berry :-

youtu.be/0N6wiJ2Oxck?si=J9W...

And

youtube.com/shorts/198u5x3H...

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just adding this so future readers are aware of the potential issues with supplementing Iodine : healthunlocked.com/thyroidu... /iodine-a-collection-of-useful-information-because-the-search-facility-on-health-unlocked-is-totally-pants

if my maths is correct , 1 drop lugols 2% = about 2.5mg iodine .

which is 2500mcg

the RDA for iodine is about 150mcg .

plus , if taking levo , this already gives you a certain amount of Iodine daily . eg 100mcg Levo has about 63 mcg Iodine in it .

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RDA will prevent goitre, but is not ideal as every cell in the body has an iodine receptor, not just the thyroid. See Dr brownstein with Dr ken berry, it is eye-opening. So many people have had a miserable life keeping to the RDA.

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This year TSH lower, T3 &4 getting towards middle range. So TSH is not shouting for more T4,

Welcome to the forum

How much levothyroxine are you currently taking

Do you always get same brand

Please add actual results and ranges

VERY important to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

aiming for Ft3 at least 50-60% through range

Often Ft4 (Levo) will need to be a bit higher

Vitamin levels

Also extremely important to test vitamin D, folate, B12 and ferritin at least once a year

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease

Lower vitamin levels more common as we get older

For good conversion of Ft4 (levothyroxine) to Ft3 (active hormone) we must maintain GOOD vitamin levels

What vitamin supplements are you taking apart from iodine

Iodine not recommended as Levo contains all the iodine you need

suggest you get iodine levels tested - see info below

Autoimmunity

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once to see if your hypothyroidism is autoimmune

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high TPO and/or high TG thyroid antibodies

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Significant minority of Hashimoto’s patients only have high TG antibodies (thyroglobulin)

NHS only tests TG antibodies if TPO are high

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

How to test

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

If you normally take levothyroxine at bedtime/in night ...adjust timings as follows prior to blood test

If testing Monday morning, delay Saturday evening dose levothyroxine until Sunday morning. Delay Sunday evening dose levothyroxine until after blood test on Monday morning. Take Monday evening dose levothyroxine as per normal

Iodine test

Genova Diagnostics for iodine test

thyroiduk.org/help-and-supp...

Click on "Read the list of available tests" and on page 3 of the pdf you'll see

Urine Iodine Test:

Specimen requirements: Urine

Cost: £76

Order Code: END25

Turnaround time: 5 - 10 days

come back with new post once you get full thyroid and vitamin testing

Members can advise on next steps

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SakaraHare in reply toSlowDragon

Thanks SlowDragon Does NDT contain iodine? So also best not to supplement?

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toSakaraHare

Every thyroid hormone contains iodine. T4 is just over 63% iodine by weight; T3 is almost 57% iodine by weight.

It is not iodine added to desiccated thyroid!

But desiccated thyroid will also contain some iodine that has been taken up from the bloodstream but not yet used to make thyroid hormones. The amount will vary at least a bit.

You cannot know where you are without testing. But testing only gives you a snapshot, and is quite expensive.

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Totoro25

Hi there,

So I am on a Carnivore Diet too but just about to go into a more lion type version.

I have also been looking at getting Lugoils 2% and using as per the you tubers you mentioned.

I see you have had a few responses this morning since posting what is your opinion on taking iodine as I'm genuinely interested?

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Brightness14

You can get your Iodine levels tested. I did some years ago and mine was perfect. I do eat lots of fish so that's probably why.

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diagnosed2013

Can I ask which is the iodine you take please? So many online to choose from...thank you

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