still struggling....what to do for the best?

[Jefner]

after my antibiotic course mid November I had a few caps of a recommended probiotic from Amrita after speaking with their nutritionist. After a couple of days it was clear that a whole cap was too much to start with and put me straight into die-off so I cut back to quarter cap for a couple of days and then moved onto Microbz Revive liquid. Started low on a teaspoon at bedtime instead of the recommended tablespoon and have had 7 doses so far.

3 days ago I had what I consider a really good day in that my anxiety was minimal and I felt much better than I have all this year and I even managed a half hour walk that night and tummy felt fine and following morning (GROSS ALERT SORRY BYPASS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ )...........................................................I passed what I consider a really good well formed stool and had to go again an hour later. I am very regular anyway but I seemed to move quite a bit that day. Instead of floating as it usually does due to poor fat digestion; down to the bottom of the pan they went and I was kinda thrilled to see that (funny as it sounds) so that perked me up that things were moving in the right direction and fairly quickly but the very next day (yesterday) all the nasty symptoms came back with a vengeance and I don't know how I got through yesterday I really don't. As well as the debilitating anxiety, nausea, fatigue, very depressed etc., slight cramping in my lower tummy all day and night so I pretty much knew what to expect today when I went and there were bits of what looked like film/mucus in it again which is telling me that the SIBO/Candida I was diagnosed with 6yrs ago is still there as I couldn't afford to retest with my FD at that time after her protocol to see if it had cleared.

I had a long conversation with a nutitionist at Amrita today and we discussed alsorts which is for another post but I feel if I am going to continue with the probiotic I need something to help with the die off ie. activated charcoal which I have ordered although the problem is with that is going to fine somewhere to slot it in well away from my meds and how much longer are these die-off symptoms going to continue.

As I am on the probiotic I stopped with the Kimchi and Kefir as it felt like going from nothing to initial overload if you know what I mean but at this point I just wanna stop the probiotic just to stop all these symptoms but I know it's an up and down journey to heal the gut which takes a long time but I don't know how much longer I can deal with all the horrible symptoms or even what to do at this point.

If I stay off the probiotic for a couple of days and have some kimchi/kefir instead and then restart, then I just restart the die-off cycle again surely?

I know you are supposed to listen to your body but it's the not knowing what is going to happen from one day to the next thing. I don't know whether I am doing right or wrong anymore with anything I am doing.

What a complete and utter mess I am in this year, moreso than others and no idea what the hell to do to help myself and no-one to ask

[Regenallotment Ambassador]

Great to hear you had a good day and managed a walk!

Now you need to recall what else you ate (or more importantly didn’t eat) in the 48-72 hours before that.

Do you keep a food diary?

[Jefner in reply to Regenallotment]

would i need to think back that far for a next day poo lol? wondered whether it might have been something I ate, typically I have some chicken or fish and steamed veggies for dinner, pretty much the same meal for breakfast and snack mid afternoon. What I think I did have a couple of days before was a microwave steamed rice which had peas, carrots and sweetcorn in; I usually pick most of the corn out because of how indigestible it is. doesn't usually bother me unless it's bothering me now because of the dysbiosis. Had a few mouthfuls of my kefir (which has dairy in and might have been the issue) who knows

[Regenallotment Ambassador in reply to Jefner]

Yes my understanding is you can go back a few days when it comes to histamine responses, gluten responses etc.

Sounds like your body liked the rice and peas and new probiotic 😊

[Jefner in reply to Regenallotment]

as I am only on a small dose of the Microbz I wonder if there is a strain or added herb in that doesn't suit me. I missed my dose last night and don't feel as bad today so just wondering whether to leave it alone and stick to Kimchi and Kefir or take the probiotic every other day and ease in that way or better still try another one

[Regenallotment Ambassador in reply to Jefner]

Try 3 days one way and 3 days the other and note symptoms down 👍

[Enuffisenuf]

I noticed, on your bio, that you were B12d.How did you get your levels back up? Do you take an oral supplement ?

[Jefner in reply to Enuffisenuf]

i am not defficient in B12, I just use a b complex

[Enuffisenuf in reply to Jefner]

Apologies I thought that I saw it on your profile.