For BadHare who asked how my kefir-making was going: Yay! Happy grains in organic whole milk, have now had two small glasses of kefir from them (one yesterday and one today). As I've not had it before I don't know what it's supposed to taste like, but it is drinkable. I was worried my house might not be warm enough as I don't have the heating on all day, but it seems to be okay. So far so good!
Thanks also to Mikegov and others who recommended trying kefir.
There is a good FB page called UK Fermenting Friends if you want to find out more. I drink a lot of water kefir, which I really like.
Fab! 
My kitchen's 15 degrees at present, which just slows it down. It will even ferment in the fridge once you have enough.
I put mine on the top of the fridge at the back as it's very slightly warm and my kefir seems to like it there.
Kefir yum, I love it. It's like drinking thick cream. Raspberry is my favorite.
Help I don't know if my kefir is alive or working it's been 18 hrs and I don't see a difference at all. I have placed in dark larder with jam jar cloth over but nothing occurring.. could I have killed it already ?
Hi Splotchy. I'm not a huge expert, but when I first started the first few batches didn't show any visible change, but when I tasted it you could tell something had happened as the milk had a bit of a tang to it. So I would advise you to strain it and drink some to see! As you do more batches, the grains grow and have more effect and you soon start to see more visible changes. Good luck.
I've just started making water kefir (thanks to Poppy_the_cat ) and my first bottle will be ready to drink today. I've had a few sneaky tastes each time I decant it and I love the taste!
I changed from milk kefir to water kefir a few weeks ago, also thanks to poppythecat ! I found the milk version a bit unpleasant to drink but am getting on better with water kefir. Enjoy!
I've just realised your post was 3 months old! I'm trying to cut right down on dairy so never tried the milk version. Then Poppy posted about it and sent me the instructions. When I wailed that I couldn't follow them due to brain fog, she worked out I lived only a few miles away and very kindly invited me round to watch it being made
ooh there are two Poppy the Cats! Miaow.
I think it was the same Poppy who sent me grains and instructions as helped you ☺️
Yes it was. I was nosy and took a quick look at the other poppythecat's profile page and she hasn't made any posts. I'm cat mad, you can never have two many cats lol!
I agree - I have just the one though as I don't think she would want to share me/her house! Cats are very therapeutic 😻
I tried getting another cat for company for the little madam in my profile pic. She hated him with a vengeance! She only cheered up again when he got run over 
She's now back to being Solo Cat Who Rules The Roost! LOL.
How do you do that little cat pic? It's as much as I can do to work out how to post a wink on this forum lol 
They do like to be in charge, don't they!! Including being in charge of us, of course...
The little cat emoji is found on my phone keyboard when I tap on the smiley face for emojis and then swipe through them til I come to a whole section of cats, eg 😺😸😽🙀🐱🐈. Is that enough cats for you?! Think I might need to add a pic of my Jemma as my profile pic now ☺️.
ahh. I'm on my computer and don't have little pussy cat emojis Probably just as well or I'd be posting cat pics on every single reply I wrote Miaow.
Yes, add Jemma! Mrs Purrkins says hi lol.
Here's Jemma in my profile pic, saying hello back to Mrs Purrkins 
. Now I'm on my computer and so sadly lacking in cute cat emojis also!!
Is she a tuxedo?
Update; Kefir Diary... Miraculous, dentist cannot believe it! Expecting to do an extraction today, he is amazed at the healed tooth & gum!
Idiots guide to kefirUpdate: My Kefir Diary. Drastically reduced swelling in feet...and less foot pain.
Kefir reactionUPDATE; My Kefir Diary...to all the folk who have responded to me asking for advice, detail and brewing instructions.
