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Dr John Midgely/ diogenes...his research papers.

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Now that we no longer have the expertise and empathy of our much lamented advisor, diogenes, members may find the following helpful for reference

thyroidpatients.ca/2019/03/...

He left a valuable legacy!

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humanbean

It would be helpful if this post was pinned.

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DippyDame in reply tohumanbean

Is that done by admin?

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply toDippyDame

It is, and has been done.

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LindaC

Thank you so much Wonderful Dame 👍😎❤️💛💚 This is a treasure! Best to you and to diogenes [alas passed], plus all who contribute to our wellbeing. xox

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Bella59

Thankyou it made interesting reading.I never realised who diogenes really was till recently.He will be greatly missed on this forum.

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caledoniancat

Thankyou for sharing the hugely helpful legacy of Diogenes.

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There's also a list of papers on the Thyroid UK website. It's somewhat hidden away unfortunately.

Click this link thyroiduk.org/further-readi... and scroll down the page to the heading Our Advisers’ Research

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clubby29

Don’t want this to be taken the wrong way but do we think the long awaited book will still happen? It would be a great legacy, I think all that can should buy a copy and throw it on their endos desk. Just to show that there are people out there that do understand how this stuff works and it ain’t a one test wonder.

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Digger031145

I didn’t realise that Dr Midgley was actually Diogenes!!!!

Dr midgley was the person who invented the tsh test wasn’t he?

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Digger031145

He also stated that TSH was irrelevant once on thyroid hormones.

lynnwin . This is the person I wrote to you about the other week

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DippyDame in reply toDigger031145

This, authored by Dr Midgley

thyroiduk.org/testing/histo...

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helvellaAdministrator

I think he invented an FT4 and an FT3 test - NOT TSH.

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TiggerMeAmbassador in reply tohelvella

Ah, I thought he came up with all of them and pointed out the short comings of TSH only

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toTiggerMe

This thread is relevant:

TSH Test creator (Robert D. Utiger, MD) says body temperature is better!

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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TiggerMeAmbassador in reply tohelvella

Just imagine a world where they treated your temperature... so simple but gotta be more effective than TSH

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Digger031145

do you have a link to where he says TSH is irrelevant once on thyroid medication

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DippyDame in reply toDigger031145

Not exactly, but this....

bmcendocrdisord.biomedcentr...

and

thyroiduk.org/testing/histo...

There is a triple failure that has led to a diagnostic hiatus that urgently needs correcting. The paradigm of the TSH-FT4 relationship is wrong, especially in treatment. The whole conceptual thinking behind diagnosis thyroidology and the importance of personal diagnosis based on the patient rather than whether the numbers fall in or out of the normal range is fatally flawed. For the moment mechanical thinking has traduced medical diagnosis.

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LindaC

Absolutely! Totally!! Got it in one!!!

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waveylines

Hi Dippy,I'm after lovely Diogenes post where he talked about the info that the manufacturers of Armour Thyroid in their own literature talked about the much slower rise and fall of tlit liothyronine content. I can't find it. Sorry to ask again....

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FallingInReverse in reply towaveylines

Hi there, I don’t know if this is what you were looking for, but I think it’s related? I’m not actually sure, but worth sharing just in case. Is this the topic you were looking for?

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