Dr John Midgely/ diogenes...his research papers.

[DippyDame]

Now that we no longer have the expertise and empathy of our much lamented advisor, diogenes, members may find the following helpful for reference

thyroidpatients.ca/2019/03/...

He left a valuable legacy!

[humanbean]

It would be helpful if this post was pinned.

[DippyDame in reply to humanbean]

Is that done by admin?

[RedApple in reply to DippyDame]

It is, and has been done.

[LindaC]

Thank you so much Wonderful Dame 👍😎❤️💛💚 This is a treasure! Best to you and to diogenes [alas passed], plus all who contribute to our wellbeing. xox

[Bella59]

Thankyou it made interesting reading.I never realised who diogenes really was till recently.He will be greatly missed on this forum.

[caledoniancat]

Thankyou for sharing the hugely helpful legacy of Diogenes.

[RedApple]

There's also a list of papers on the Thyroid UK website. It's somewhat hidden away unfortunately.

Click this link thyroiduk.org/further-readi... and scroll down the page to the heading Our Advisers’ Research

[clubby29]

Don’t want this to be taken the wrong way but do we think the long awaited book will still happen? It would be a great legacy, I think all that can should buy a copy and throw it on their endos desk. Just to show that there are people out there that do understand how this stuff works and it ain’t a one test wonder.

[Digger031145]

I didn’t realise that Dr Midgley was actually Diogenes!!!!

Dr midgley was the person who invented the tsh test wasn’t he?

[Digger031145]

He also stated that TSH was irrelevant once on thyroid hormones.

lynnwin . This is the person I wrote to you about the other week

[DippyDame in reply to Digger031145]

This, authored by Dr Midgley

thyroiduk.org/testing/histo...

[helvella]

I think he invented an FT4 and an FT3 test - NOT TSH.

[TiggerMe Ambassador in reply to helvella]

Ah, I thought he came up with all of them and pointed out the short comings of TSH only

[helvella in reply to TiggerMe]

This thread is relevant:

TSH Test creator (Robert D. Utiger, MD) says body temperature is better!

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[TiggerMe Ambassador in reply to helvella]

Just imagine a world where they treated your temperature... so simple but gotta be more effective than TSH

[Digger031145]

do you have a link to where he says TSH is irrelevant once on thyroid medication

[DippyDame in reply to Digger031145]

Not exactly, but this....

bmcendocrdisord.biomedcentr...

and

thyroiduk.org/testing/histo...

There is a triple failure that has led to a diagnostic hiatus that urgently needs correcting. The paradigm of the TSH-FT4 relationship is wrong, especially in treatment. The whole conceptual thinking behind diagnosis thyroidology and the importance of personal diagnosis based on the patient rather than whether the numbers fall in or out of the normal range is fatally flawed. For the moment mechanical thinking has traduced medical diagnosis.

[LindaC]

Absolutely! Totally!! Got it in one!!!

[waveylines]

Hi Dippy,I'm after lovely Diogenes post where he talked about the info that the manufacturers of Armour Thyroid in their own literature talked about the much slower rise and fall of tlit liothyronine content. I can't find it. Sorry to ask again....

[FallingInReverse in reply to waveylines]

Hi there, I don’t know if this is what you were looking for, but I think it’s related? I’m not actually sure, but worth sharing just in case. Is this the topic you were looking for?

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[helvella]

I have collected links to all diogenes' published papers and linked via a special page of my blog.

helvella - diogenes documents

This document is a tribute to John Midgley - diogenes.

It lists as much of his published work as I have been able to find. Where possible, there are links to accessible copies.

The PDF of this document is here:

dropbox.com/scl/fi/cgnuorpd...

diogenes posted many times on the HealthUnlocked Thyroid UK forum. This is a link to his profile where you can view his posts and replies. (Some may be restricted to members but most are accessible.)

healthunlocked.com/user/dio...

Screenshot of blog entry/diogenes

[DippyDame in reply to helvella]

This is excellent helvella

Thank you!