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I have recently signed up the Our Future Health programme. I was invited along for a blood test and a finger prick cholesterol test. The cholesterol result came back as 10.14 and I was told to go to my GP. I had a cholesterol blood test at my doctors surgery in July and it came back as 6.1. I thought I was doing well with my diet but thinking about it I have had a lot of red meat recently. The other thing different is the pharmacy changed my brand of levothyroxine. Could a different brand alter my cholesterol levels that much?I have to go to the Dr 9am Monday for a fasting blood test.

Any advice is very welcome.

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High cholesterol is often due to inadequate thyroid hormone. Your last NHS blood test was just a TSH result, have you managed to get a private test done?

Monitor My Health offer a finger prick test for just under £30 if you use the discount code offered by Thyroid UK. thyroiduk.org/help-and-supp...

You really need to see where your FT4 & FT3 are.

Also your ferritin & folate were terribly low & you had to fantastic advice a few months back regarding these levels. Whats happened about them since?

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Suziscrews in reply toJaydee1507

Hi Jaydee, nothing has changed since my last post, I take supplements now and have just ordered a thyroid test from Medicare (or Medicheck) which I expect midweek so will have to wait until the following Monday to do the test. I think I need to change doctors but these days I think they are all the same. It really gets me down, I know how I feel, I explain all this to the GP and its like talking to the wall. They no longer care. Every test I have had this year I have had to dig my heels in for. Then they tell me I am fine. I dont know who they get to check the test results . I went for a MRI scan on Friday on my ear. The result will probably come back that I am a mushroom and not pregnant.

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Suziscrews in reply toJaydee1507

Thank you for taking the time to get back to me.

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Strongly recommend you get full thyroid test done

And what has happened about your dire ferritin results and low folate

For good conversion of Ft4 (levothyroxine) to Ft3 (active hormone) we need GOOD vitamin levels

High cholesterol = low Ft3

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Suziscrews in reply toSlowDragon

Hi SlowDragon, apologies for my late reply. I accidentally lost my first reply, do this is the shorter version.Nothing has changed since the last post. I take a B12 supplement from British Supplements and Berroca for iron. It is difficult trying to afford these as state pension does not go very far. And to be honest I sat and cried when trying to reply to your post because it all got a bit much. I am fed up of arguing with the doctors, I feel like I am the trouble maker patient. I felt I needed to write a letter of complaint saying they didn't listen to me after I saw the Dr (last month) to ask to change my B12 injections from 3 months to 2 months. When I checked the NHS app the Dr wrote I complained of dizziness. I never mentioned it. I also sent the NICE guidelines on how to treat B12 deficiency. Anyway they won't change the B12 and I am waiting for a response from my letter. Then getting the 10.14 cholesterol results on Thursday has floored me. I have a good diet, I cook everything from scratch, no ready meals or processed food, no white bread etc and the only thing that has changed is the levothyroxine brand. I have the fasting blood test in the morning, 9am, so will wait on the result. I know they will get onto me to take statins but I won't. I tried them a couple of times years ago and each time had a backache like no other.

Thanks SlowDragon for listening, just being able to put everything down has made me feel a bit better.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toSuziscrews

Request GP test iron, folate and vitamin D

Exactly what vitamin supplements are you taking

I don’t think Berroca is iron

As you get B12 injections you need to take a good quality vitamin B complex daily as well….one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help maintain B12 levels between injections

Difference between folate and folic acid

healthline.com/nutrition/fo...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule)

Thorne currently difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay

Other options

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu....

Igennus B complex popular option too. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg)

Post discussing how biotin can affect test results

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Suziscrews in reply toSlowDragon

Slow dragon, thank you for all your valuable information, which has given me plenty to think about. I have had my thyroid results back though I don't understand them. TSH 0.27 (normal range 0.38 -5.33)

T4 14.7 (normal range 7.9 -14.4)

I had taken my my 100mg dose of levothyroxine about 2 hours before blood test because I was told it a cholesterol blood test. However they tested serum TSH, results above. Liver, all clear and cholesterol and diabetes results have not yet been received.

I have a telephone appointment tomorrow to discuss the results.

Separate to this I have had a reply to my letter of complaint regarding my request to have my B12 every 8 weeks instead of 12. The doctor said she will test my B12, 11 weeks after my injection and if its low they will reduce from 12 weeks to 10. They will also test for folate, B12 and active B12 which, apparently is a new test.

I hope you can understand all this.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toSuziscrews

TSH 0.27 (normal range 0.38 -5.33)

T4 14.7 (normal range 7.9 -14.4)

this result has false high Ft4 as you took levothyroxine before test

Retest correctly including Ft3

Monitor My Health is cheapest for just TSH, Ft4 and Ft3

You also need vitamin D and ferritin levels tested

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toSuziscrews

Can you check what’s in the Berroca supplement ……I don’t think it’s got iron in it

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toSuziscrews

Request GP test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3

test early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Just TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 test - £32

Via NHS private test service

monitormyhealth.org.uk/thyr...

10% off code here

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

only test early Monday or Tuesday morning and post back immediately

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Sparklingsunshine in reply toSuziscrews

Just stick to your guns about statins, you've tried them, they made you unwell. I dont think that hypos should be on them in any case. Its your life, your body, your decision. You dont have to justify it to anyone.

You are the person living with the consequences of their prescribing, not the GP. What ever happened to the idea of it being a partnership between doctor and patient, not the doctor trying to meet quotas and bully you into taking something you dont want?

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Suziscrews in reply toSparklingsunshine

Thank you and You are right, I do have to live with the consequences of their prescriband i'm determined not to have stations

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Suziscrews in reply toSuziscrews

Statins.... predictive text lol

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greygoose

Just replied to a question about cholesterol a few minutes ago. To save me repeating myself, I'll link you to the thread:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

:)

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humanbean

The worst thing for increasing cholesterol is low thyroid hormones.

After that the problem is sugar not fat or meat or protein.

Some links you might find interesting :

drmalcolmkendrick.org/2012/...

In the above link look at the graphs for women, particularly the one on the left.

spacedoc.com/articles/50-fa...

In the above link I particularly like statement no.17.

Statins increase your risk of

heart failure

hardening of the arteries

type 2 diabetes

dementia

cancer

muscle pain (myopathy - a muscle disease)

rhabdomyloysis (which may also destroy or severely damage the kidneys)

cataracts

The following two links contain links on statins and cholesterol within them. They are from a diabetes forum :

diabetes.co.uk/forum/thread...

diabetes.co.uk/forum/thread...

Cholesterol info

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