Long article on hypothyroid and most recent thinking on T3, T4 in USA. Worthy of a read, but quite challenging.

[Mothebear]

medscape.com/viewarticle/98...

[diogenes Remembering]

If nothing else, the acceptance that desiccated throid extract can be one of the treatment options is a good forward step. Hope it strikes a chord with medics in general.

[humanbean]

I just read the comments.

What is it with doctors fixating on the fact that bits of pig are used in hypothyroidism treatment, and obviously going "Ewwww" at patients who take it? Or who want to try it?

Thyroid from pigs, cows, and sheep have been used in treatment for hypothyroidism going back to the 1890s.

Diabetics have been using insulin from animals, including pigs, ever since it was first discovered and became available as a treatment.

In modern times people have been getting heart valves from pigs for years.

And for thousands of years people have been eating pigs, wild or domesticated.

So, to any doctors going "Ewwww". Grow up!

[Delgor in reply to humanbean]

Oink Oink - sorry it's the pig coming out in me😠 I shall be more than a little tempted to make a noise when the hospital endo tells me for the 4th time that I should come off of all my NDT and go back onto Levo after 30 years🐷

[Hidden in reply to humanbean]

It's the most bizarre response when humans have been eating offal for centuries! Which is just what thyroid is; organ! 🙄

[TaraJR in reply to humanbean]

Current BTA president (just about to hand over presidency) described NDT as 'a ham flavoured placebo'. Says it all...

[Batty1 in reply to humanbean]

lol …. My endo is or was member of ATA (no idea) and he said Eww Armor thyroid comes from a pig (no kidding) now I see where his attitude about that came from ATA is bad for us.

[Hidden in reply to Batty1]

Which would be 100% understandable if he were vegan or lived in a vegan society...but I doubt he is and I know he doesn't!

[Batty1 in reply to Hidden]

He is just anti AT if I weren’t on T3 prior to seeing him he probably wouldn’t give me it either.

[Delgor in reply to Batty1]

Can I please ask if you actually saw him at THE hospital in Newcastle or did you go privately? Please disregard Batty - suddenly remembered you were in the USA but before I had a chance to amend  humanbean wrote to remind me - we are all tired and stupid sometimes☹️

[humanbean in reply to Delgor]

Batty1 is from the USA, she isn't British.

[Delgor in reply to humanbean]

You beat me to it - I just remembered that and was coming to amend my post - think I've got you know who on the brain after TaraJR's post but thanks anyway😁

[diogenes Remembering]

Reading more closely, the "TSH is the final arbiter in any treatment" comes across so clearly. The dialogue is all American-loaded, as if nobody else was pursuing similar paths and getting different answers. Again he will go so far but, if other work like ours challenges his position, he carefully avoids the implications. He simply cannot let go of TSH as the key determinant of future treatment, combination or otherwise. He simply will not accept that the relation between TSH, FT4 and FT3 is fundamentally different from health.