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Can anyone help me before I go to the gp.

For more than 3 years my tsh levels have been hovering around or below the bottom of the range. My doctors have used this for refusing to increase my dose of levo.

The test from my gp just before Christmas was 4.11 (0.34-5.44) and I repeated the test with Monitor my Health last month which recorded 3.33 (0.27-4.2) My T4 was 17.7 (12-22) and T3 was 3.7 (3.1-6.8). When tested my T4 and T3 have always remained remarkably constant and did not change last month when my TSH shot up.

Can anyone shed any light on this change please?

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TSH is extremely unreliable on any replacement thyroid hormones and especially with Hashimoto’s

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When were vitamin levels last tested

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

Are you now on strictly gluten free diet or dairy free diet

Was thyroid test done as recommended, early morning and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

FT4: 17.7 pmol/l (Range 12 - 22)

Ft4 only 57.00% through range

FT3: 3.7 pmol/l (Range 3.1 - 6.8)

Ft3 much worse at just 16.22% though range

Helpful calculator for working out percentage through range

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Most people when adequately treated will have Ft3 at least 50% through range

How much levothyroxine are you currently taking

Do you always get same brand levothyroxine at each prescription

Suggest you get all four vitamins tested and optimal

Push for next dose increase in levothyroxine

Try strictly gluten free/dairy free

If Ft3 still remains low see endocrinologist

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LEVO DOSE SHOULD NOT BE DETERMINED BY TSH

Diogenes/Toft paper:

bmcendocrdisord.biomedcentr...

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The link between TSH, FT4 and FT3 in hyperthyroidism is very different from taking thyroid hormone (T4) in therapy. In hyperthyroidism, FT4 and FT3 are usually well above range and TSH is very low or undetectable. In therapy, FT4 can be high-normal or just above normal, TSH can be suppressed but FT3 (the important hormone that controls your health) will usually be in the normal range. FT4 and TSH are of little use in controlling therapy and FT3 is the defining measure. A recent paper has shown this graphically:

Heterogenous Biochemical Expression of Hormone Activity in Subclinical/Overt Hyperthyroidism and Exogenous Thyrotoxicosis

February 2020 Journal of Clinical and Translational Endocrinology 19:100219

DOI: 10.1016/j.jcte.2020.100219

LicenseCC BY-NC-ND 4.0

Rudolf Hoermann, John Edward M Midgley, Rolf Larisch, Johannes W. Dietrich

LlINK TO PAPER: 

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/320...

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

TSH is unreliable 

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