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Updates TSH results and recommendation

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Hi All,

Thank you for your help in my previous post. I am following it up as I have just had the latest results back from my blood test last week and I have been asked to make a GP appointment to discuss them.

They are as follows:

Serum free T4 level: 13.8 pmol/L ( 9.0 - 19.1)

Serum TSH level: 5.21miu/L (0.35 - 4.94)

Currently on 100mg levothyroxine and previously I had mentioned that in 3 years since being on these meds I have put on 14 Kg and cannot lose any weight despite best efforts.

Could I get some advice on what the results mean on what questions I should put to my GP please?

Thanks in advance.

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Your not on high enough dose levothyroxine

On levothyroxine TSH should always be below 2

You need 25mcg dose increase in levothyroxine

Which brand of levothyroxine is your 100mcg tablet

Ideally get same brand for 25mcg tablet

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

ALWAYS test thyroid levels early morning and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Request GP test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Likely these might be low as you have been left on too low a dose levothyroxine

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking…..if any

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Comprehensive list of references for needing LOW TSH on levothyroxine 

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu....

TSH should be under 2 as an absolute maximum when on levothyroxine 

gponline.com/endocrinology-...

NHS England Liothyronine guidelines July 2019

 

sps.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploa...

Page 9 

Test for Deficiency of any of the following: Vitamin B12, Folate,  Vitamin D, Iron

See page 13 

1. Where symptoms of hypothyroidism persist despite optimal dosage with levothyroxine. (TSH 0.4-1.5mU/L)

Graph showing median TSH in healthy population is 1-1.5

web.archive.org/web/2004060...

guidelines on dose levothyroxine by weight

Even if we frequently don’t start on full replacement dose, most people need to increase levothyroxine dose slowly upwards in 25mcg steps (retesting 6-8 weeks after each increase) until eventually on, or near full replacement dose

NICE guidelines on full replacement dose

nice.org.uk/guidance/ng145/...

1.3.6

Consider starting levothyroxine at a dosage of 1.6 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day (rounded to the nearest 25 micrograms) for adults under 65 with primary hypothyroidism and no history of cardiovascular disease.

Also here 

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/hypo...

pathlabs.rlbuht.nhs.uk/tft_...

Guiding Treatment with Thyroxine: 

In the majority of patients 50-100 μg thyroxine can be used as the starting dose. Alterations in dose are achieved by using 25-50 μg increments and adequacy of the new dose can be confirmed by repeat measurement of TSH after 2-3 months. 

The majority of patients will be clinically euthyroid with a ‘normal’ TSH and having thyroxine replacement in the range 75-150 μg/day (1.6ug/Kg on average).

The recommended approach is to titrate thyroxine therapy against the TSH concentration whilst assessing clinical well-being. The target is a serum TSH within the reference range. 

……The primary target of thyroxine replacement therapy is to make the patient feel well and to achieve a serum TSH that is within the reference range. The corresponding FT4 will be within or slightly above its reference range.

The minimum period to achieve stable concentrations after a change in dose of thyroxine is two months and thyroid function tests should not normally be requested before this period has elapsed.

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craigdaddy in reply to SlowDragon

Thanks for your swift response.

I am taking Levothryoxine from a company called Almus Pharmaceuticals.

I have full blood count, and other related tests and they were all normal apart from eGFR which was a little below normal.

I take all the following daily: Centrum Advance multivitamin, 1000mg Vit C.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to craigdaddy

Almus is Accord brand boxed by Boots

Accord don’t make 25mcg

Request GP write prescription for 50mcg tablets and cut in half to get 25mcg

Cut using pill cutter or sharp craft scalpel

Store spare half in weekly pill dispenser for next day

Many people find Levothyroxine brands are not interchangeable.

Most easily available (and often most easily tolerated) are Mercury Pharma or Accord

Mercury Pharma make 25mcg, 50mcg and 100mcg tablets 

Mercury Pharma also boxed as Eltroxin. Both often listed by company name on pharmacy database - Advanz 

Accord only make 50mcg and 100mcg tablets 

Accord is also boxed as Almus via Boots, but Accord  doesn’t make 25mcg tablets

 Many patients do NOT get on well with Teva brand of Levothyroxine. Teva is lactose free.

Teva contains mannitol as a filler instead of lactose, which seems to be possible cause of problems. Mannitol seems to upset many people, it changes gut biome 

But for some people (usually if lactose intolerant, Teva is by far the best option)

Aristo (currently 100mcg only) is lactose free and mannitol free. 

March 2023 - Aristo now called Vencamil

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Wockhardt is very well tolerated, but only available in 25mcg tablets. Some people remain on Wockhardt, taking their daily dose as a number of tablets 

 

List of different brands available in U.K.

thyroiduk.org/if-you-are-hy...

Once you find a brand that suits you, best to make sure to only get that one at each prescription.

Watch out for brand change when dose is increased or at repeat prescription.

Levothyroxine is an extremely fussy hormone and should always be taken on an empty stomach and then nothing apart from water for at least an hour after

Many people take Levothyroxine soon after waking, but it may be more convenient and perhaps more effective taken at bedtime

verywellhealth.com/best-tim...

markvanderpump.co.uk/blog/p...

markvanderpump.co.uk/blog/p...

No other medication or supplements at same as Levothyroxine, leave at least 2 hour gap.

Some like iron, calcium, magnesium, omeprazole or vitamin D should be four hours away

(Time gap doesn't apply to Vitamin D mouth spray)

If you normally take levothyroxine at bedtime/in night ...adjust timings as follows prior to blood test

If testing Monday morning, delay Saturday evening dose levothyroxine until Sunday morning. Delay Sunday evening dose levothyroxine until after blood test on Monday morning. Take Monday evening dose levothyroxine as per normal

Multivitamins never recommended on here

Were you taking these at least 4 hours away from levothyroxine

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to craigdaddy

Low GFR directly linked to not being on high enough dose levothyroxine and should improve as thyroid levels improve

GFR is kidney function

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

The GFR is reversibly reduced (by about 40%) in more than 55% of adults with hypothyroidism[40] due to several reasons.

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tattybogle

the TSH is over range . this shows your current dose of Levo is not high enough for your needs and the GP should be increasing it.

See this list of recommendations for GP's to keep TSH between 0.4 / 0.5 and 2/ 2.5 in patients on levo :

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu....

This post may be help you understand what is going on and why you are not doing well with those results :

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu... /explanation-of-what-*high-tsh-is-telling-us-when-our-ft4-level-is-normal-on-levothyroxine-the-shoe-size-analogy.-*-over-2.5-3-ish

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McPammy

you definitely need an increase of levothyroxine T4. Your TSH should be around 1.00 and your T4 and T3 levels need to be midway at least.

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