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Has anyone else read the Anthony William books? There are 3 - Medical Medium, Life Changing Foods and Thyroid Healing. He claims that the root cause for so called autoimmune diseases including thyroid problems, is NOT the body turning on itself, but our immune system fighting a virus. The virus theory is unrecognised by current medial communities, but I feel his information is worthy of consideration. The virus can lay dormant usually in our organs (not blood) and when stress and trauma come into our lives, the immune system is suppressed and the virus comes out to cause havoc for us. There are many different strains of the virus (EBV) and they can mutate and multiply over years and generations. Fascinating information for anyone motivated to try something different to regain their health.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

No.

There has certainly been research into viruses being causative agents of thyroid disorders.

Dormant viruses are very well known - e.g. chickenpox/shingles. To the extent of now having vaccines (regardless the arguments about them and their ingredients) - something that would not have happened if they were being ignored.

Anyone could go off and collect the sort of information Anthony William has put into his publications.

I am afraid that I consider him a charlatan and there to exploit the unwell.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to helvella

John Crace in The Guardian wrote this parodic sketch piece a couple of years ago:

theguardian.com/books/2016/...

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Clutter in reply to helvella

A charlatan endorsed by that flake Gwyneth Paltrow and published in Goop. Couldn't be better!

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Clutter

Interesting blog by someone who had dealings (at $350 an hour - later $500) and ended up extremely disappointed - for obvious reasons:

kateleong.com/2016/02/the-t...

Also, a phoenixrising page with considerable scepticism:

forums.phoenixrising.me/ind...

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Clutter in reply to helvella

Doesn't surprise me at all.

There was an attempt on Twitter to get him prosecuted for claiming his protocols cure cancer. I don't think anything came of it.

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Framboise in reply to helvella

I feel desperately sad for the mother who wrote the first of your links Helvella. My niece's two baby daughters died from a genetic disease which took a long time to discover and involved hospitals in three different countries. I remember the urgency and panic of needing to know and understand what was happening. That this man could take money from, and give unfounded hope to, and then blame someone in a similar position is absolutely despicable.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Framboise

That is why the idea of the royalties on just one more copy of his book ending up in his pocket feels offensive.

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BethDarrall in reply to helvella

Indeed. I will probably be in a better position to make a judgement when I have tried the foods and herbs he suggests to strengthen the immune system, detox heavy metals and pesticides. In the end, time will tell.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to helvella

Far from being ignored, there are 150+ papers indexed on PubMed which refer to both Epstein-Barr virus and thyroid. Many refer to possible connections with thyroid cancer but Graves is also mentioned over 40 times.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?te...

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dina7 in reply to helvella

You say anyone could go off and collect this sort of information ... but they don't, because there's no money in it for Big Pharma, they're not interested in looking for causes or cures, only to sell more drugs.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to dina7

There are many who do exactly that.

Mary Shomon - verywell.com/mary-shomon-32...

Izabella Wentz - thyroidpharmacist.com/

Barbara S Lougheed - tiredthyroid.com/

Various - thyroidchange.org/hypothyro...

Lesley deGroot et al - thyroidmanager.org/

Now I don't agree with every statement by every one of these people. Some clearly make something out of their activity. So far as I am aware, not one of them is misleadingly claiming they got their information through the occult. In general, they are clear and open about their sources and often include references.

As someone who has endeavoured to post useful, helpful, valid information here for over seven years, and seen many, many others also contribute, it is somewhat disappointing to see people preferring such books. Certainly the information here in this forum is not all presented in a book you can buy. But it is available without charge and without any remuneration to any of those who have put their effort in.

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Treepie

I am sure that there will be some true statements amongst the dross.

Rather reminds me of the author T.Lobsang Rampa who wrote many books of his upbringing in Tibet and of the third eye and astral projection.I enjoyed the books but turned out he was a bus conductor in some UK town.Must have been reincarnated in that role hardly progress!

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Treepie

I'd forgotten about Tuesday!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobsa...

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Treepie in reply to helvella

I had forgot the T was Tuesday. I subsequently discovered Madame Blavatsky and the theosophists . I have " Isis Unveiled" and the "The Secret Doctrine" all unread and probably worth less than the few bob I paid in the 60's .Sigh.

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Venus77 in reply to Treepie

That's brilliant and hilarious! :) Had he EVER lived in Tibet? Or did he just have an incredibly vivid imagination?!

P.S. Just noticed helvella's link and read,

"It was reported that the author of the book was a man named Cyril Henry Hoskin, who had been born in Plympton, Devon, in 1910 and was the son of a plumber. Hoskin had never been to Tibet and spoke no Tibetan."

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Treepie

Very convincing books though,I am sure some tabloid said he was a bus conductor but yes Wiki says plumber. Now thinking it was one of the last books where he said he had been reincarnated as a bus conductor ..or was it a cat.. Wish I could write " fiction?" as good.

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Venus77 in reply to Treepie

According to Wikipedia,

"One of the books, Living with the Lama, was described as being dictated to Rampa by his pet Siamese cat, Mrs Fifi Greywhiskers."

Reading about Rampa the Ridiculous has lifted my spirits splendidly! :D

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Treepie in reply to Venus77

Good to know it has given you a laugh .I can laugh now but when he was exposed it was a real disappointment as I had read all the books including the one you mention ( which did stretch credulity beyond braking point) .All forgotten now and I did not read the Wiki article.Prefer my muddled memories!

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Danielj1

I have read the book - an alternative view to sense check against everyone else’s.

Some useful tips of diet and supplements .

If anyone wants more detailed feedback let me know.

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dina7 in reply to Danielj1

Have you tried the 28 day cleanse?

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dina7

I've only read the first one BethDarrall, have you read the other two? I opened the first one and it had everything I'd ever had wrong with me in it so I decided I'd better take notice. I tried his 28 day cleanse and felt a lot better after about 17 days, then started going downhill again - I can't cope with the lack of protein. But I have been eating a lot more salads and green veg since, and will give it another try when it gets a bit warmer. And I'm going to try the celery juice when I can find a good supply of organic celery.

I don't understand why people rubbish him just because he makes money out of what he does. As if Big Pharma doesn't make heaps of money, and many doctors besides.

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BethDarrall in reply to dina7

Hello Dina, I am happy to read your reply and I agree with you. Yes, I have got all 3 of his books and the whole virus theory makes so much sense to me. I am trying the fruit and veggies only diet and have cut out eggs in addition. Have been GF, dairy free, meat free for years. I like that he points out why fruit is acceptable (his chapter "Fruit fear" was interesting) and that he also says NOT to avoid broccoli, etc group of veggies, as other books on thyroid warn you against. His second book Life Changing Foods is an inspiration and I now look at food in a completely different light. I do wonder whether the people slagging him off have actually read his books and tried his suggestions? I think he does say that you can introduce small fish, mackerel, sardines, haddock, and avoid the obvious heavy metal fish like tuna and swordfish. That would satisfy your need for animal protein. In any case, vegans seem to manage well without eating animals, but I do like fish. It has been disheartening to read negative reviews, but when I started reading the book, which had been recommended to me by several different sources, I thought to myself, well, this guy may be a nutter, or, he may be onto something. I wouldn't pay out for a personal consultation with him, but I am prepared to give the diet suggestions a go, just to find out for myself. If it helps me feel better, then it will have been worth it. If it doesn't, then no big deal. If I don't try, I'll never know. I wish you well, warm regards, Beth

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Eva60

I'm on his protocol for two months now and I feel great, improving, no doubts. Science doesn't know everything. Some people could be more open minded... I can tell you more after few months, will see.....

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BethDarrall in reply to Eva60

Thank you so much for your reply, Eva, that is good to hear. I am looking at the alkaline diet, vegan, no grains (except wild rice) mostly raw veggies and fruit. Have you watched Dr Tom O'Bryan's Betrayal series? Very interesting and goes along very similar lines re. foods to eat, foods to avoid, heavy metal and pesticide detox. If only our GPs would consider this natural approach, but education is key. I wish you well and look forward to hearing of your progress in the future!

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Eva60 in reply to BethDarrall

BTW, I've joined Fan club 'Medical Medium' on Facebook, they are posting fantastic recipes, mostly vegan, and great info about beneficial food. I deeply recommend. I eat a bit of fish and other meat but love his dishes dearly, helps me to stay away from bread ( difficult :-)) ).

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Danielj1

Perhaps the single best reason to buy the book is his assessment of nutrition and food supplements. I am especially grateful for being challenged to get off eggs and I don’t want to go back.

He also believes, somewhat controversiallly, that the thyroid can get better and undergo some form of repair or healing. I am all for his vision of travelling in hope - there is enough reporting already along the lines once that hashis is some unstoppable all encompassing destructive process :)

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