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Is this NDT or is it a supplement

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Has anyone had any experiences with Piping Rock Grass fed Beef Thyroid capsules

at £19.28 for 120 capsules it sounds cheap

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TVOReason

It's definitely not NDT, it quite clearly states it is hormone/thyroxine free

pipingrock.com/v2/beef-orga...

However, how they remove any trace of hormone I don't know.

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TVOReason in reply to SeasideSusie

Thanks for that Seaside Susie, I’ve just been reading about Thyro gold and when I searched this was in the listings and I’d never heard of it

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radd in reply to TVOReason

TVOReason,

It looks more like a supplement similar to the old Nutri Thyroid, although contains a little more gland.

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shawsAdministrator

Thyro-gold was the new invention of Dr John Lowe - (doctor/scientist/expert on T3 /researcher/Adviser for Thyroiduk.org.

He deliberately made Thyrogold so that it could be bought without the need of a prescription. Many have found it of benefit and relief of their symptoms.

Unfortunately for us, the patients, he fell and had a brain bleed which caused Dr Lowe to die.

His widow, Tammy, now deals with the product.

radd TVOReason SeasideSusie

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QandA in reply to shaws

Are you able to get thyro-gold? I’ve been looking intermittently over a year and it never seems to be in stock.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to QandA

Due to worldwide coronavirus it may have caused many medical products to have had a shortage.

I have just read their link and this is a copy of explanation:-

Limited Inventory...

After a year of constant effort and diligence, we are thrilled to announce that our Thyro-Gold is once again available for purchase!

BEFORE YOU ORDER PLEASE READ::

** The global pandemic alerted us all. After struggling to obtain raw material, respecting the wait of our turn in the manufacturing process, adhering to the updates of quality control, and ensuring the integrity we intend to maintain with our signature product, we have to do all we can to preserve what inventory we were fortunate to receive. Therefore, we have implemented a maximum purchase limit to all orders.

This new limit includes:

2 bottles maximum of the 300mg per order

2 bottles maximum of the 150mg per order

OR

1 combo maximum per order

__________________________________________________________________________________

** In addition, we urge each customer to update, confirm, and edit their profile information through Paypal. We will be unable to make address changes to orders or intercept packages in the mail system for re-routing.

The above is an excerpt from the website which is self-explanatory:-

naturalthyroidsolutions.com/

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Margo in reply to shaws

Good morning shaws . I remember on this site many conversations about Dr John Lowe. I believed he was based in the UK? Just been looking at his website /Thyro-gold and the address is America.

I had long forgotten about Thyrogold,. and was wondering if it might be a good replacement for me when I finally run out of TR Mann NDT. I m not keen to go back to Levo/T3 or T3 on it's own, but I need to do something very soon as my current medication has nearly run out, and without a thyroid that could be quite uncomfortable to say the least.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to Margo

Dr John Lowe was an American and that's where his lab was and he lived with his wife who has now taken over . Due to the pandemic there's been many medical products that have been scarce.

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meme in reply to Margo

I am still using up my TMan supply too. I have 2 pots of Thyroid S ready for when I’m finally out of TMan . Have you tried Thyroid S ?

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Margo in reply to meme

No I haven't tried Thyroid S meme . I am not looking forward to going on to something new. Have you tried it? What made you choose Thyroid S?

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meme in reply to Margo

I am not looking forward to the swap either! I have 500 left, so short of a year left.

I took Armour till it changed, Nature Tyroid till it changed.

I tried Tru thyroid ( still have an almost full pot left) but it did not work for me. Meta Thyroid ? did nothing.

So not much else to try 😫 .

The shortages are always a worry, so I like to have a lot in stock.

Wishing you good luck.

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limonene7 in reply to QandA

Is this it, is it the same thing? naturalthyroidsolutions.com

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shawsAdministrator in reply to limonene7

Yes it is the same:

naturalthyroidsolutions.com/

I think that due to the pandemic that many companies might have had difficulties in sourcing their incipients to make tablets.

europeanpharmaceuticalrevie...

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QandA in reply to shaws

Do you know the equivalent amount of thyro-gold for 100mg levothyroxine? I am not getting a reply from them.

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Guineapiggy

I was interested in this as I take Metavive, which is whole pig thyroid gland < edited by Admin >

On the Piping Rock site it says two different things so is totally confusing. It says that the thyroxine (T4) component has been removed and then it says all the hormones have been removed.

I have contacted them to clarify things because if they have removed all the hormones then there is no point to the product. If they have only removed the T4 part then it would be a source of triiodothyronine, which would be useful for some people.

If there is anything useful to report in their reply I will add it to this post.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Guineapiggy

Lack of clear information, statements often conflicting with other statements - even on the same page, and so on, makes it very difficult to trust any of them.

It has been like this for many years.

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Guineapiggy

Piping Rock don't seem able to answer what the point of their product is but did confirm that all hormones are removed, so it seems that using it is a waste of money.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Guineapiggy

Nor has anyone ever managed to tell us how they remove all hormones from the product.

I don't think it is as simple as using a filter paper or mixing in another ingredient.

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Guineapiggy in reply to helvella

I have just asked them to tell me how they remove the hormones.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Guineapiggy

Look forward to reading their answer! :-)

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