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My hair is increasingly thinning and after a trip to the hair salon today, my hairstylist told me she can see a marked difference in how thin my hair is now πŸ˜”πŸ˜ͺ. I have noticed myself and so I've been using curling tongs to try and give it volume, but she says the heat makes it worse. She did suggest Biotin supplements to help with hair growth.

Does anyone who's had the same hair issues, done or used anything to drastically help things?

My thyroid levels seem to be on target, I take NDT and sometimes my T3 level is on the higher end, but I thought this doesn't affect hair loss πŸ€”.

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SlowDragon profile image
SlowDragonAdministrator

When did you last get vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 levels tested?

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

If already taking vitamin B complex you will be taking biotin

in reply to SlowDragon

Thanks! I am taking vitamin D has recommended by a Rheumatologist as I've just been diagnosed with early onset osteoporosis. My other levels are ok. I take a multi vitamin without iodine as well. I did start taking pure collagen powder to try and help bone loss and apparently it also helps hair and skin but I haven't been very diligent in taking this so I am starting again today. I've also read that selenium is supposed to help too. I'm not very good at taking supplements, mainly due to the cost and I have difficulty swallowing them.

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Suggest you test vitamin levels now

Low ferritin is often linked to hairloss

Should test vitamin D twice year when supplementing

List of private testing options

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Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins probably cheapest for testing all four vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

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If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

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NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test Β£29 via

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in reply to SlowDragon

Thanks for all the info!

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MapleMoose

Vitamin deficiencies can cause hair loss so maybe look at those, particularly ferritin.

This article may help:

hubpages.com/health/16-Vita...

in reply to SeasideSusie

Thank you, that link was helpful

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Luna1390 in reply to SeasideSusie

What is considered "low ferritin" in the context of Hashimoto's and hair thinning? Is 40 low?

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Luna1390

Luna1390

Yes, 40 is considered low if the unit of measurement is ug/L (mcg/L). According to NICE a ferritin level lower than 30mcg/L is considered iron deficiency

From: cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency.

A typical female ferritin range is 13-150 so as 30mcg/L is iron deficiency then 40mcg/L is low but, of course, because it's within range most doctors are happy and will say it's OK.

According to some experts, ferritin levels of at least 40 mcg/L are required to stop hair loss, while levels of at least 70 mcg/L are needed for hair regrowth and that the optimal ferritin level for thyroid function is between 90-110 mcg/L.

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Luna1390 in reply to SeasideSusie

This is so helpful! Thank you!

Star13 profile image
Star13

I use Zinc Citrate 30mg which is supposed to help with hair and nails. It helped my nails but hair not so much! I have also just started to use the Champo hair products and think they are making a difference though. People swear by them.

in reply to Star13

Thanks! I've not heard of Champo products. Time to investigate πŸ˜„

Hi

Is you hair thinning all over, diffuse hair loss, is it mainly on the top of your scalp as that can indicate female pattern hair loss.

Hair loss can be down to many things, diet stress, ageing, genetics, autoimmune conditions like alopecia areata, menopause, illness, even medications can cause it. As the others have said low ferritin levels are another cause. We Hypos to blame thyroid issues but they certainly are not the only culprit.

If you can work out where the loss is happening, ie all over or just in certain areas, then that can make working out what is causing it easier. People associate hair loss with men, but 40% of women experience hairloss as well.

in reply to Sparklingsunshine

Hi! My hair is thinning all over and not falling out in clumps. I am going to be more diligent in taking hair growth promoting vitamins and supplements. My head constantly burny itches at the moment. It is hard to pin point the cause of this and has only just started to happen. I feel like something is crawling on my head, but my family can't see anything. I don't know if it's a reaction to an ingredient or change in local water levels, or something else. I am in the menopause, had Covid which can cause hair loss too. My T3 levels are a bit high after a test this week, but my T4 is in range. I take NDT ( thyroid s) and just started a new bottle so wondering if the burny itch is due to different fillers. It's a guessing game and I can't seem to get to the bottom of these head/hair issues.

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Sparklingsunshine in reply to

Hi

People who are losing hair often complain of itchy, tingly scalp. You could try an antihistamine. You haven't changed shampoo or anything have you? Could be allergic to something. Do you take HRT? Women often find HRT helps with hair loss.

in reply to Sparklingsunshine

That's interesting as well as concerning. I am often changing shampoo to try and get a better one for my hair. I am avoiding HRT due to other side effects and apart from high flushes which are manageable, I don't think I am suffering too much with the menopause.

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Sparklingsunshine in reply to

Hi

We can start losing hair during menopause due to decreasing oestrogen, plus some women are sensitive to testosterone, which we have in smaller amounts than men, obviously, but at menopause, our decling oestrogen levels mean our hair follicles can become sensitive to a substance that testosterone converts into DHT. Which then attacks hair follicles causing hair loss.

Women don't tend to lose hair like men, but as the DHT attacks the follicles, it causes miniaturisation and thinner, weaker finer hair to grow back in place of the thicker hair you've lost.

It's possible you've got the same number of hair follicles you've always had but the hair that is growing is finer. So overall your hair looks and feels thinner. However this pattern of hair loss called androgenetic or female pattern hair loss mainly affects the top of the head.

Women notice their parting getting wider or their fringe getting thinner or receding hair at the temples. The rest of the hair is usually unaffected. It can be genetic and is more likely if there is a history of hairloss in the family or hormonal issues like PCOS.

Hair loss after covid is very common, as is stress. You might have a condition called telogen effluvium, where more of your hair is in the resting and falling out stage than the growing stage. This can cause diffuse hair loss. But hopefully is temporary and your hair will grow back. The itchiness can caused by sensitivity to fillers, has your NDT changed formula at all?

In the meantime be careful with your hair, try and treat it gently, avoid heat styling it as much as possible. Avoid harsh colours and bleaches. Could you ask your hairdresser to suggest a hairstyle which can disguise the thinning, maybe get it cut shorter and a style where you don't need to blow-dry or straighten it too often.

Eat a healthy, balanced diet, plenty of lean protein, good for hair. Make sure you are taking supplements regularly. They wont do any good in the packet

πŸ˜€. And a daily scalp massage is good for stimulating blood flow, easing tight muscles and stress relief. There are videos and tutorials on the internet freely available.

If you can use a diluted essential oil like rosemary or peppermint in a carrier oil like almond oil or jojoba that can help with hair loss and help grow new hair.

in reply to Sparklingsunshine

Thank you that's really helpful πŸ™‚

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shawsAdministrator

Quite a number of people who are diagnosed with one Autoimmune Disease can develop other autoimmune conditions.

aad.org/public/diseases/hai...

I have lost all of my hair every year for several years - just before the summer when we want to have hair. I have had to buy a couple of wigs as you don't feel so well when we've no hair. I have Alopecia Areata.

I always think 'at least it isn't due to cancer treatment'.

I take T3 alone but it happened when I was on T4 (levothyroxine).

in reply to shaws

Thanks for this. I am going to be more diligent with my vitamin supplements as I often slack off due to difficulty swallowing them. I've ordered Biotin too. I use Thyroid S and my recent levels stated that my T4 is well in range but my T3 is slightly over and my TSH is suppressed. I am wondering if the increased T3 is causing it. I constantly have an itchy head now.

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Tomchr

Hi MapleMoose,My hair is thinning also, i.e. both hair density and growth speed is ok, but the thickness of the individual hairstrands have become thin/fine. I would say half the original diameter. As for the texture, my hair is superdry and frizzy. When I comb it after wash, I notice 20-30 hairstrands falling out.

How is your hair texture? Are your fingernails lightly curved downwards?

in reply to Tomchr

Hi! Yes it's very concerning. I am also in the menopause, so that could be a contributory factor. I am seriously considering HRT which may help. I did take a high potency Biotin supplement to try and help, but had a bad reaction to it, so I had to stop. What type of Thyroid meds do you take? I use Thyroid S. My last blood tests showed I was in range but my T3 was very slightly elevated. There has been some problems with the latest batches of Thyroid S so I don't know what the hair thinning reasons are exactly. My nails are very dry and brittle, but where I live in the UK, the winter's do get colder, and the water is very soft and acidic, so that could be a reason as my skin gets better when I travel.

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Tomchr in reply to

I have not started taking thyroid meds. Around 2020, I began noticing that my hairstrands were getting finer and the texture was very dry and frizzy. Late 2020 I had my blood tests done and T4 came back well in range and T3 slightly over range.

The last 12 months I have improved my diet and taken supplements daily such as magnesium, zinc, selen, C, B complex and biotin. Hair texture and thickness have not improved. Ferritin, Iron, D, B12, folate are all well in range. My last blood test showed that T4 was still well in range and T3 slightly over range.πŸ€”

One thing to bear in mind when supplementing with biotin is that it competes with vitamin B5. So, if you have had breakouts, it might be that you are slightly Vitamin B5 deficient. B5 also has an influence on hair.

Do you know what your albumin levels are?

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Hylda2

I use Waterman’s Grow Me shampoo after seeing it recommended on here. It’s not cheap but it works

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