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TsH 0.03 after increase in levothyroxine

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Hi appreciate any help I can get 😁

I have been on levothyroxine for 5 years. I have never got on well with it. I started off on 50mcg and moved up to 75mcg. I was OK on the 75mcg for about 3 years. My results were stable but I still had a lot of the hypo symptoms but it was better than when I first got diagnosed.

Over the last year my endo has increased my dose to 85ncg then 100 and about 6 weeks ago to 125mcg. I feel awful. I feel wired all the time, I can't remember things. My breast are extremely sore and I can't wear any bras with an underwire. Any clothing that touches my skin causes discomfort. My weight has gone out of control despite what I do with my diet.

I need help. I spoke to my GP and they are sympathetic but they aren't helping me. My endo is nice but I feel like he is not listening to my problems.

My latest results are:

T4 28.7

T3 not measured

Tsh 0.03

Prolactin 514

I take liquid thyroxine as I couldn't tolerate tablets, possibly due to the lactose they contain

A help will be greatly appreciated 🙏

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Just testing TSH and Ft4 is completely inadequate

Recommend getting FULL thyroid and vitamin testing done

Many people can’t tolerate over range Ft4

Do you split your liquid levothyroxine into 2 smaller doses waking and afternoon ….often gives better results

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested.

Do you know if you have autoimmune thyroid disease diagnosed by high thyroid antibodies

90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

In U.K. medics never call it Hashimoto’s, just autoimmune thyroid disease (and they usually ignore the autoimmune aspect)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off down to £26.10 if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £29 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

Gluten intolerance and/or lactose intolerance are EXTREMELY common with autoimmune thyroid disease

If not on gluten free diet

Request coeliac blood test BEFORE considering trial on strictly gluten free diet

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org/if-you-are-un...

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Lisaannette in reply to SlowDragon

I had some bloods check about 2 months ago. The results were as

Ferritin 30

Vit b12 574

Folate 8.1

Hb 125 (best it has been)

Not sure about the Vit D but when I have checked it before the results were in the sufficient range. I do take vitamin D tablets daily (not prescribed).

My T3 was checked about the same time as the above. It was 3.9 and the T4 was 12 at that point. My TSH was around 7ish which is when the endo increased my meds.

I take my medication in one dose usually in the morning at the same time.

My endo told me my antibodies test came back normal. He says I have central hypothyroidism but didn't say the cause.

I had a celiac test too and that was negative, but I feel better avoiding gluten. I try to avoid but completely, but I have been caught out on occasion when not checking food packaging.

The main problem is my weight and sore boobs. I feel so uncomfortable in my skin. I have a really busy job and I can't concentrate on my job because of the discomfort.

Thank you for your reply

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Lisaannette

Ferritin is deficient

GP should be doing Full Iron panel test for anaemia

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency

Look at increasing iron rich foods in diet

Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/too-littl...

davidg170.sg-host.com/wp-co...

Great in-depth article on low ferritin

oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

restartmed.com/hypothyroidi...

Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first

Medichecks iron panel test

medichecks.com/products/iro...

Iron and thyroid link

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Posts discussing why important to do full iron panel test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Chicken livers if iron is good, but ferritin low

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Lisaannette in reply to SlowDragon

Thank you for this. I will try get more iron into my diet. I don't eat a lot of red meat and the dark chocolate sounds like something I could definitely manage 😊

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Lisaannette

With such low ferritin it’s highly likely you will need iron supplements

It’s very difficult to improve such low ferritin with just chocolate……

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FancyPants54 in reply to SlowDragon

I know! I have struggled with ferritin for years despite industrial quantities of dark chocolate 😉

SlowDragon profile image
SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to FancyPants54

Liver …Chicken liver, liver pate, red meat all more likely to be effective

FancyPants54 profile image
FancyPants54 in reply to SlowDragon

I know. I have eaten a ton of all the right stuff. I still need supplements though and still never get it optimal.

SlowDragon profile image
SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Lisaannette

Need to test vitamin D and test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

Have you actually tested BOTH TPO and TG antibodies

Many Hashimoto’s patients only have high TG antibodies

20% of Hashimoto’s patients never have high thyroid antibodies

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Lisaannette in reply to SlowDragon

I'll check with my endo about the antibodies as I'm not sure.

Is it dangerous for me to continue with the levo when the tsh is so low

SlowDragon profile image
SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Lisaannette

Suggest you get TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 tested together

ALWAYS test as early as possible in morning BEFORE taking levothyroxine

Last dose levothyroxine should be 24 hours before test

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FancyPants54 in reply to Lisaannette

Even with lowish FT3 I could never tolerate over range FT4, which is what you have. I suggest you get a home test kit from Monitor My Health (it's an NHS lab) and do the TSH, FT4 and FT3 early one morning before you eat or drink anything and before your meds. You need current results to work with.

You can ask your GP for the other tests. Ferritin is way too low. You will need supplements for that, but you should ask them to check for anaemia first.

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Lisaannette in reply to FancyPants54

Do you think I should leave my meds as is? Some of my symptoms have felt better yesterday and today. Apart from the breast pain I keep getting

FancyPants54 profile image
FancyPants54 in reply to Lisaannette

I think you should leave them alone and get a test kit and do the test. Then come back with the results and ranges for all 3 blood markers and we can have another look. Without a test it's just guessing really.

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