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A paper showing preferences for NDT (DTE)

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This paper interested me as it was observational rather than a formal trial. It shows that some people (would you believe it) get benefits form NDT despite the alleged contraindications. At least someone is looking at this albeit in a rather haphazard fashion. However note the obscure journal it was put in - not one of your top journals but one of the authors was McIninsh a disciiple of Bianco.

Patient Experiences and Perceptions Associated with the Use of Desiccated Thyroid Extract

April 2020 Medicina (Kaunas, Lithuania) 56(4):161

DOI: 10.3390/medicina56040161

Freddy Toloza,El KawkgiS, Juan P Brito et al

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UrsaP

TY diogenes . With the lack of funding for trials about time they started using clinical observation again.

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linda96

Thank you for finding this paper. I’m not keen on the tone of it though..still using Canaris, Wiersinga (Pilo), Jonklass, still making insinuating remarks that Iv interpreted as their belief NDT is somehow a fad or life-style choice.

Other diseases or conditions have multiple choice treatments, So why is it so astonishing to non-thyroid people that our need to have a choice, especially one that offers another but active drug (Liothyronine, in whatever guise) is very important.

Pilo has a lot to answer for! 14:1 - ! Grrr

Thank you Diogenes, even if my blood boils occasionally when Pilo, gets his nose in.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to linda96

This statement, from their Conclusions, seems to assume that LT4 treatment is entirely predictable and has no potential for causing adverse effects. Otherwise it would be a nonsensical thing to say:

We also described the authentic account of a subgroup of patients who prefer DTE over LT4 for the treatment of hypothyroidism, despite its unpredictable response and potential adverse effects.

Oh dear! Perhaps it is nonsensical...

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TSH110 in reply to linda96

NDT is my lifestyle choice because I wanted to have just that - a life! It wasn’t a life worth living on T4 monotherapy

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

Full paper freely accessible here:

mdpi.com/1010-660X/56/4/161

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vocalEK

I was interested in the specifics of "risks associated with DTE", so I searched to find "risks associated" within the text again. Nothing. "Risks" alone, still found nothing. So this was just a CYA statement thrown out there that means ZIPPO?

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