Hi all,
I trust you are all well and thank you I'm advance. I have been taking NDT since January. I have realised that my heart races, I get a dull headache that last the whole and my blood pressure goes up. I would like to try adding T4. I have put in more weight . I take 2 grains. I had a total thyrodectomy in July of last year. Please advise
It looked like you were undermedicated 3m ago. healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...
Did you try raising your dose?
Being under-medicated can make your heart go faster than usual and your blood pressure rise. Your heart rate might also be fast if you have iron deficiency—do you know if you do?
Thank u for responding. I am on iron supplements. My Endo asked me to reduce the dose. It is just frustrating that they go by the TSH only. I was due to see a private Endo. All is on hold due to the current situation.
How long have you been taking iron ? Do you take VitC too - aiding absorption.
How were your levels of B12 - Folate - VitD ? Do you take iron 4 hours away from your NDT ?
I have often read here it is best to have all your ducks in a row before embarking on NDT or T3 🌟
Thank you for replying. I do take vit c and B12
OK - how long have you been taking iron ? How low were you when tested ? VitD ?
Hey there cbraffe
It so hard, as we are all starting from different set points, but I do think vitamins and minerals need to be optimal for good conversion of NDT.
There is fixed ratio of T3 and T4 in NDT which tends to suit most people, but do read of people adding back in either a little T3 or T4 when they are close to being at their ' sweet spot ' .
Some people split their NDT - is this something to consider ?
Has NDT helped you at all ?
The TSH is of no value when medicating with NDT - and in fact if I went to a doctor to monitor my progress, I could easily be told I was over medicated, depending on the timing of the blood test and the taking of the thyroid hormone supplement, as my T3 can go over into the mid ' 7's ' but I am not ' hyper ' in any shape or form, and my TSH is stuck down at 0.01 and not a reliable measure of anything as I have Graves Disease.
Not many doctors know of NDT and how to treat with it, and read functional doctors are more receptive to what seems to be seen as an alternative treatment to mainstream NHS.
NDT was the successful treatment for over 100 years and you were dosed to the relief of your symptoms, there were no blood tests. Patients were believed and a little slither of pig thyroid would be given to the patient to chew on. If the symptoms persisted, a slightly larger piece of pig thyroid would be suggested, so forth and so on.
Thank you. My B12 is fine. It is a difficult journey indeed. Take care
Fine is not a result - was it over 500 ? Did you manage to obtain copies of all your results so you can monitor your own health and check what has been missed !
.EDIT : Have reread some of your earlier posts and see that your B12 was over 500 - had you been supplementing at that time ? - as this will skew results.
Thyroid hormones do affect blood pressure and I would think that NDT will have an effect. I could find all sorts of references to T3 affecting blood pressure but nothing specific and scientific about NDT. I take NDT and my blood pressure has risen but it is my systolic, my diastolic remains low. But I suspect its cause is hereditary and the NDT is not directly related it’s just purely coincidental. I have a lot less angina than I did on Levothyroxine or before treatment which indicates the T3 in it has helped in my case.
I found this article that may be of interest. I think Dr Westin Child’s info is supposed to be ok:
restartmed.com/thyroid-medi...
Splitting your dose might help. A comprehensive blood test could reveal if you are overmedicated or not. TSH is of little value on NDT. Free T3 is most important for determining this. Despite what he says, I definitely had many more heart palpitations and angina on T4 monotherapy that I have ever got on NDT.
You might find Dr Malcolm Kendrick musings on treating blood pressure interesting too. I stopped worrying about mine when I read it:
Thank you.
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