Will NDT bring cholestorol and pre - diabetes levels down

[dragon51]

Over past few months have had levothyroxine reduced from 100mcg to 75mcg post thyroidectomy many years ago due to cancer, Endo said I was over prescribed levo which contributed to cardio issues (awaiting tests and diagnosis). Diagnosed with hypertension, high cholestorol and pre-diabetes.

Since being on reduced levo BP has gone down to normal level (i stopped BP meds) but cholestorol an diabetes levels have risen. In space of a few months pre-diabetes shot from 43 to 47. Basically my metabolism has slowed down after reduction of thyroxine hence the drastic change.

I have obtained NDT and plan to use it in place of thyroxine.

Question: Can NDT help to bring cholesterol and pre-diabetes down?

Thank you.

[Marz]

Cutting out sugars and carbs that become sugars should help. Also the T3 within the NDT.

[dragon51 in reply to Marz]

Cutting out carbs and sugars would be beneficial to someone over weight who does not exercise or eat an healthy diet. High cholesterol is not always due to a lifestyle that needs to be changed. I am slim active get plenty of exercise and eat an healthy diet. Despite this my reading was 43 October 2019 I attended diabetes group January 2020 and made a few adjustments where needed. Weeks on, overweight folk lost a bit of weight while I put weight on.

So what was going on here? Well the only other change was end of January levothyroxine was reduced which caused my metabolism to slow down....hypothyroidism!!! As a consequence cholesterol rises as does glucose levels.

Went to see GP about massive rise to 47 explained diet, exercise and slight changes I had made while attending pre-diabetes group. She actually said, "you are a perfect pre-diabetic patient" concluding that there was nothing else I could do. She also agreed that my thyroid issue was playing a big part in rise from 43 to 47.

Hence the question I posted.

Thank you Marz most kindly

Have a rewarding day in these trying times

[Marz in reply to dragon51]

Thank you !

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to dragon51]

High cholesterol is linked to being under medicated

nhs.uk/conditions/statins/c...

If you have an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), treatment may be delayed until this problem is treated. This is because having an underactive thyroid can lead to an increased cholesterol level, and treating hypothyroidism may cause your cholesterol level to decrease, without the need for statins. Statins are also more likely to cause muscle damage in people with an underactive thyroid.

You should see cholesterol levels drop on adequate dose of NDT

[dragon51 in reply to SlowDragon]

Yes Slow Dragon I am indeed under-medicated on 75mcg levo and hypothyroid and thanks to the above info you posted I stopped taking statins weeks ago. Over a week ago I also stopped taking BP medication and beta blocker (ACE) in preparation for taking NDT. However today I took a turn for the worse (pain in heart and tightness in chest) and had to take beta blocker plus aspirin. All has gone well up to now and hopefully I will not have to take beta blocker tomorrow.

I so want to take NDT tomorrow but putting it off until I have Thyroid Ultra Check,

Active B12 and vitamin D blood test with Medicheck. and Cortisol Saliva test with Blue Horizon. Just want to get levels checked and avoid any adverse complications that may arise when I medicate with NDT. Are these steps necessary before taking NDT?

thank you most kindly

have a rewarding day

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to dragon51]

Many people find it difficult to tolerate adding any T3 until all four vitamin levels are optimal

And if under medicated...vitamins are frequently dire

Best to start NDT extremely slowly adding may be 1/4 grain maximum alongside levothyroxine (and reducing Levo small amount at same time)

I take levothyroxine plus 3 split doses of T3

So don’t have experience of NDT

Suggest you put up a post and ask for members experiences

[dragon51 in reply to SlowDragon]

endo wont prescribe T3 so viable option was NDT

thank you once again SlowDragon

[greygoose in reply to dragon51]

High cholesterol is not always due to a lifestyle that needs to be changed. I am slim active get plenty of exercise and eat an healthy diet.

High cholesterol is never du to lifestyle. It's made in the liver. When T3 is low, the body cannot process and eliminate it correctly, so it builds up in the blood. Raise the FT3 and the cholesterol will decrease. Not that it's a problem, anyway. Those with high cholesterol live longer.

[dragon51 in reply to greygoose]

NHS endo wont prescribe T3

So plan to take NDT in the near future. Have obtained it...eureka!

Never knew high cholesterol leads to a longer life.

thank you most kindly

have a rewarding evening

[greygoose in reply to dragon51]

Thank you, you too.

[BadHare]

Hopefully, but best to follow a low GI (low carb) diet. There’s a high fat low carb HU forum that’s good to peruse.

Eat healthy fats, enough good quality protein & maybe include a portion of pulses every day. Eat only whole grains if you opt for carbohydrates ,& give processed foods especially artificial sweeteners & margarine a wide berth. Fill up on high fibre foods that are filling & will benefit your gut bacteria which will help your immune system & hormone conversion in your gut.

Lots of free info in Chris Kresser’s website, also Michael Mosley’s blood sugar diet.

[Fruitandnutcase]

I was pre-diabetic and taking part in a study when I was referred to rheumatology and prescribed three months worth of steroids. A month after that I went for my second part of the study and was discovered to be Type II diabetic. I was very lucky to be discovered so soon.

I visited my practice nurse who give me three months to alter my diet or else I was on the diabetes list. I went home and googled and discovered this wonderful book I visited my practice nurse who give me three months to alter my diet or else I was on the diabetes list. I went home and googled and discovered this wonderful book

Reverse Your Diabetes: The Step-by-Step Plan to Take Control of Type 2 Diabetes Paperback – 6 Nov 2014

by Dr David Cavan (Author)

I’ve got a blood sugar meter and then I got a blood sugar meter and then did exactly what Dr Cavan recommended and gradually eliminated all the foods that respect in my blood sugar.

I have Graves’ disease which is an overactive thyroid with antibodies and when I was at my most ill my cholesterol was the lowest it has ever been. I have not been in remission For Seven years and my cholesterol has crept up again. I’m not medically qualified but from my own personal experience hyper rep seven years and my cholesterol has crept up again.

I’m not medically qualified but from my own personal experience being at the hyper end of the scale for me equalled low cholesterol and being at the hypo end of the scale increased my cholesterol.

If you google you will find that that is known. I told my GP but as she pointed out “I’m within the range”. I am, but if I was at the lower end of the range instead of heading towards the top I would feel better and both she and I know that my cholesterol would be lower.

Although saying that the body does need cholesterol.

[Miffie]

I doubt NDT will sort your blood sugar levels without you taking some action yourself. I am diabetic, I take ndt, my HbA1c is currently 39 not because I take NDT, rather that I was carefully eating and getting blood glucose under control. I was 55 at worst and dropped to 47, next drop was to 43 and then 39. I am still diabetic, remission is some way down the line. zI am sure you can do it by cutting carbs.