Test result, can you take a look?

[T2017]

Tsh: 2,6 mlE (0,3-4,3)

t4: 18 pmol (12-22)

T3: 5 pmol (3,1-6,3)

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

T2017

Yes, I've looked

On a more serious note, we need some information if we are to respond. We don't know why you are asking us to look at your results.

Are you diagnosed with a thyroid condition and are you on any thyroid meds?

If so what dose?

Has anything changed recently?

Are you having any symptoms?

Etc.....

[T2017 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hypo hashi. Since many years.

Levo and t3. Didnt change, just yearly result.

Symtoms and feeling crap.

Dose didnt change since over a year.

Got "treated" for lack of b12, folic accid, iron 5 months ago.

To be honest i lost my care because depression hit me hard.. Ive been feeling bad and dont know how to get back.

Wondering what to do. If these results are bad. I used to read alot but now i got brainfog so i posted here as i know since before people help alot here.

Thank u for any tips

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to T2017]

Thank you for that extra information, it is helpful.

As for your results:

Tsh: 2,6 mlE (0,3-4,3)

t4: 18 pmol (12-22)

T3: 5 pmol (3,1-6,3)

The aim of a hypo patient generally, when on Levo, is for TSH to be 1 or below or wherever it needs to be for FT4 and FT3 to be in the upper part of their reference ranges, if that is where you feel well.

So we can immediately see that your TSH to too high, your FT4 is 60% through range and your FT3 is 59% through range.

* Please say what dose of thyroid meds you are taking for further comment on addressing these thyroid results.

To be honest i lost my care because depression hit me hard..

Depression can be a symptom of hypothyroidism so if you are undermedicated you will have hypo symptoms.

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Got "treated" for lack of b12, folic accid, iron 5 months ago.

* What were those results back then?

* What were you prescribed?

* Have you been monitored?

* What are your current results for these?

* Are you still supplementing?

* Have you had Vit D tested? If so what is the result and the unit of measurement?

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The fact that you have Hashi's is very likely the cause of your poor nutrient levels, it tends to do that.

Some members have found that adopting a strict gluten free diet can help, although there is no guarantee.

Gluten contains gliadin (a protein) which is thought to trigger autoimmune attacks so eliminating gluten can help reduce these attacks.

You don't need to be gluten sensitive or have Coeliac disease for a gluten free diet to help.

Gluten/thyroid connection: chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

Supplementing with selenium l-selenomethionine 200mcg daily can also help reduce the antibodies, as can keeping TSH suppressed.

Other information about Hashi's:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/h...

stopthethyroidmadness.com/h...

hypothyroidmom.com/hashimot...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

[T2017 in reply to SeasideSusie]

To even write is a struggle cause I feel like i have dementia/brainfog. They gave me medicine for my anxiety they dont make me calm just anxiety with even worse brainfog.

125 levo and 20t3 is my dose.

Tried ndt but my anxiety ended up almost killing me. And now i dont eat pig because its making me ill. So ndt from cow? but still to get licence and fighting with drs is like hitting ur head against a wall. The pig ndt i got from a friend.

My vitamins. Lets see.

-ferretin 16. (5-150)

Folate 4. (6-40)

Vitamin D. 24. (60-200)

B12 150. (140-730)

I got folate and b12 pills. The iron i already took for over two years so they gave me drops to take in mouth to see if that helps.

After 2 months

b12: 710 (140-730)

vitamin D: 57 (60-200)

Ferretin: 33 (5-150)

magnesium: 0,74 (0,70 - 0,95)

selenium: 0,9 (0,7 - 1,2)

They were happy with that. I was going to check for gluten where they take a look inside stomach but they said as ur vitamins got "normal"no need to check. "just eat more food" they said. Since then no check. And then i went to dr where i get my anxiety meds and he said. Check ur vitamins thyroid and diabetes and called me stupid cause i hadnt checked in over a year.

Like im the dr, why do i have to beg for help everytime.

Anyway. Those got back. And they were going to check b12 and iron but didnt get result yet. Going to dr in a couple days. Also my kidney results was a bit bad (maybe because of diabet. Happen before but then my kidneys got better when i upped my insulin dose)

thank you for reading and responding.

[T2017 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Now im not taking any vitamins.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to T2017]

You can see that after 2 months of supplementing your levels improved. You have to monitor them and continue with the supplements until your levels are optimal and then you need to maintain those levels. If you stop your supplements then your levels will go down again.

B12 150. (140-730) and this reached 710 (140-730)

Now you must ensure it stays at that level.

Folate 4. (6-40)

You haven't got a new result for this but it should be at least half way through it's range.

Vitamin D. 24. (60-200) and new level was vitamin D: 57 (60-200)

Your new level was still too low. If the unit of measurement is nmol/L then the Vit D Council recommends a level of 125nmol/L and the Vit D Society recommends a level of 100-150nmol/L. If your level is currently 57nmol/L then to reach the recommended level you should be supplementing with 3,700iu D3 daily according to the Vit D Council (nearest is 4,000iu), then retest in 3 months to check your level.

Once you've reached the recommended level then you'll need a maintenance dose to keep it there, which may be 2000iu daily, maybe more or less, maybe less in summer than winter, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range. You can do this with a private fingerprick blood spot test with an NHS lab which offers this test to the general public:

vitamindtest.org.uk/

Doctors don't know, because they're not taught much about nutrients, but there are important cofactors needed when taking D3 as recommended by the Vit D Council

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems such as hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, etc.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds if taking tablets/capsules/softgels, no necessity if using an oral spray.

Magnesium helps D3 to work. We need Magnesium so that the body utilises D3, it's required to convert Vit D into it's active form. So it's important we ensure we take magnesium when supplementing with D3.

Magnesium comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds if taking tablets/capsules, no necessity if using topical forms of magnesium.

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

drjockers.com/best-magnesiu...

afibbers.org/magnesium.html

Check out the other cofactors too (some of which can be obtained from food).

ferretin 16. (5-150) and you raised this to Ferretin: 33 (5-150)

Your original level was very low, and low ferritin can suggest iron deficiency anaemia, were you tested for this, did you have a full blood count and iron panel?

The new level is also low and it's recommended to be half way through range. You should continue with your iron supplement, also eat iron rich food such as liver, liver pate, and others apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/in...

Hashi's is know to lower nutrient levels and cause deficiencies, so it's essential that you monitor your levels and keep supplementing to maintain them. Optimal nutrient levels are necessary for thyroid hormone to work.

125 levo and 20t3 is my dose.

With your current results, you know your TSH is too high. Taking T3 tends to lower, even suppress, TSH. As your FT4 is 60% through range and your FT3 59% through range, if those were my results I would raise my T3, that will improve your FT3 result and should also lower your TSH.

Are you taking your Levo and T3 well away from any of your other medications? Thyroid meds should be taken on an empty stomach, one hour before food or two hours after, with a glass of water only, and water only for one hour each side. Any other medication and supplements should be at least 2 hours away from thyroid meds (some need 4 hours - iron, Vit D, magnesium, calcium, and some medications) so that nothing affects absorption of thyroid meds.