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GREAT article on thyroid replacement hormone, T4 vs T3 vs NDT, combination therapy, suppressed TSH...recommended read for everyone!

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Now, I remember there was a post about this recently where someone said she thought one of the authors might have been Swedish...I think this might be it. The article itself is from a Canadian thyroid site, but there is a reference to a study where one of the names is Danish. If someone knows which post I am referring to, please link to it here.

Anyway, here is the article; personally, I have to say it's one of the best I've read so far because it basically recognises that we are all different so have different needs:

thyroidpatients.ca/2019/09/...

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jimh111

Will not get time to study it in detail for a while but it does raise some interesting facts - beyond the simplified analogies

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Ossuryak

THANK YOU ,VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE not sure I fully understood every thing but it confirmed a lot of my experience and theories in the parts i did comprehend

in reply toOssuryak

If anything is unclear you can just ask here, I am sure members will be able to help you out:-)

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Fifteen

Thanks for this. Very helpful article.

in reply toFifteen

This is one article I wish all doctors would read before trying to force levothyroxine on every patient and dosing by the TSH only.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to

Unfortunately, if in the UK, I doubt the 'authorities' will change their attitude and become 'more updated' about how best to treat hypo patients untill they are on an optimum dose and also allow the prescription of NDTs (if necessary) to those who cannot recover on levo or T3 or T3/T4.

They withdrew NDTs (which has been prescribed (or given) worldwide since 1892 but unfortunately the Association made False Statements about this to have it withdrawn instantly n the UK. They wouldn't give an answer to the Scientist/doctor who sent them the following and every year for three years, they never did respond.

Thousands of hypo sufferers recovered on this product:-

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

They then went on to withdraw T3 without any notice or thought of the distress this caused patients

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robtorn

Very informative site. Thank you for sharing.

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Nico101

Really good article. Given me food for thought.

I'm - apparently - a good converter, so I'm now wondering if it may be useful to cut my NDT and try a little levo once I get my dose stabilised.

I also tried splitting my dose last week after someone on here recommended I try it, and I felt a fair bit better - the tremors went, at least.

Wonder if my endo would read this? Nah, only joking. Of course she won't!

in reply toNico101

How do you know you are a good converter once on NDT? Why were you put on NDT in the first place if you don't have a conversion problem?

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Nico101 in reply to

I was told on here after I posted my thyroid results. I chose NDT, as I wanted something more natural/less Big Pharma. Since Dr P went off the scene, I self-medicate.

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Nico101 in reply toNico101

Oh, the reference to my endo is based on my hopeless endeavour to see if the NHS would pay for NDT. She was only interested in my cholesterol and trying to get me on statins. So, I guess it's carry on self-medicating.

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shawsAdministrator in reply toNico101

They don't now prescribe NDT - which was always an alternative and many doctors prescribed it until its withdrawa.l due to their False Statemets. You can read below one of TUK's Advisers responded :-

thyroiduk.org/tuk/TUK_PDFs/...

Every year for three years before Dr Lowe's demise, they never did respond. Neither do they listen to patients many who have been fourced to source their own.

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Nico101 in reply toshaws

Yes, I knew it was a very long shot, but I had to try due to the cost.

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shawsAdministrator in reply toNico101

We should be given prescriptions for whatever resolves our clinical symptoms. It shouldn't be down to cost. If we have more consultations with doctors than we need, surely relieving symptoms will be cost-effective.

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Nico101 in reply toshaws

My thoughts exactly. But then, it's not really about making us well, is it...

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Gingernut44

Well done for finding that, let's hope the OP finds your post.

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dtate2016

Yes there are some great articles coming from this author out of Canada so welcome to see and would love to know more about this person! Love the metaphors!

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purpanda

Elegantly written and I couldn’t have come across it at a better time. I found the section on having T3 as the cause of insomnia to be especially enlightening. Oh, the horrors of night awakenings and not be able to go back to sleep! It’s so dreadful and now I finally know of a fix! Thanks so much for sharing!

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CatsofCatford in reply topurpanda

Thank you so much for posting this, I learned so much.

What a great article with insight into D1 D2 and D3. The only thing about test results are that some labs may not process the tests within an interval where the rises of hormones will normally occur. If there is a delay in the test processing may be this may not reflect accurately the daily or hourly fluctuations of the hormones in the system.

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DoeStewart

Hi Cat68, I've just posted a question on the forum, I've had an alert to say you have posted a reply but I can't see it on the site?

in reply toDoeStewart

I deleted it as someone else had already said exactly the same thing:-)

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DoeStewart in reply to

Ah ok - thank you. I have posted my TSH and T4 results as per Greygoose request.

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