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RE: Opinion on Thyroid/Hormone results

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Hi

Here are previous posts (I am not sure if, when you reply back/comment on a previous post whether it goes to the top of the list under ‘latest’ or not, so I just started a new post): healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

I was advised on here to get my Iodine level tested as it may be low due to not consuming dairy (stopped consuming a few years ago).

I did the Urine Iodine test (first thing in the morning as advised) and have my results back. Level came back at 29 which means I am deficient (attached/link below). I did the test on June 27th and Genova received it the next Morning (28th). Reported: July 10th, 2019?

Should I start taking a Mega Mineral Complex like this? naturesbest.co.uk/minerals/...

(I also emailed a private doctor (focuses on TRT) regarding my Low T symptoms and he wanted an up to date blood test (tested on 17th June, 9am fasted) (attached/link below) to check my level and to see if it would be worth having an appointment face to face. My Testosterone level is ‘low normal’ for my age (24) but we understand Low T symptoms and Lower T levels can be caused by Thyroid problems, deficiencies etc, as they are all linked).

I stopped taking all supplements around 10 days before having each test (Vitamin D 3000iu, Igennus Super B-Complex x1 tablet). My Folate is only slightly higher than my previous test (in previous post) even though I started taking a B-complex, although I probably haven’t been taking it long enough and need to further increase foods that are high in Folate as I'm probably not getting enough through my diet. My Vitamin D has dropped slightly, I'm not sure if this is because I stopped taking the Vitamin D days before the test.

My symptoms are all still the same although I have been getting pain recently in my neck and near my ears but this could just be due to exercise or my balance disorder. GP said it is most probably neck stiffness. Also, I have been getting pain on&off in my left testicular area over the last few weeks, my GP did a quick examine, didn't find anything abnormal but referred me to get a scan done (guessing an ultrasound), which I am waiting an appointment for. I showed my GP my medichecks results, they briefly looked at it and said everything is fine.

Thanks

Results link:

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I can't answer all your questions but these are my thoughts.

I did the Urine Iodine test (first thing in the morning as advised) and have my results back. Level came back at 29 which means I am deficient

We can see that your result has come back within the "Moderate iodine deficient" category.

You have asked:

Should I start taking a Mega Mineral Complex like this? naturesbest.co.uk/minerals/...

and my question is why?

Iodine deficiency should be treated under the guidance of an experienced practioner as there is a protocol and cofactors needed.

Multi supplements are generally not a good idea. The one you have linked to raises a few questions:

1) It contains 1000mg calcium. Have you had calcium tested, found to be deficienct and need to supplement? If not, you don't take calcium.

2) It contains 14mg iron. There are two problems here:

(i) Iron affects the absorption of everything else in a Multi supplement. Iron needs to be taken 2 hours away from any other supplements.

(ii) Looking at your iron panel, your serum iron is already over range.

Iron is complicated. Optimal levels are as follows, according to web.archive.org/web/2018083...

Serum iron: 55 to 70% of the range, higher end for men - as mentioned yours is over range

TIBC: Low in range indicates lack of capacity for additional iron, high in range indicates body's need for supplemental iron - which considering your serum iron is over range poses a problem

Saturation: optimal is 35 to 45%, higher end for men - yours is over range

I have no idea whether or not you need iron supplementation. Your full blood count does not indicate iron deficiency anaemia. Again, professional guidance regarding your iron would be a good idea but a Multi is not the answer.

I stopped taking all supplements around 10 days before having each test (Vitamin D 3000iu, Igennus Super B-Complex x1 tablet).

It was right to stop the B Complex because of the Biotin it contains causing false results with the blood tests, but there was no need to stop the Vit D, with that you just continue taking it but on the day of the test take it after the blood draw.

My Folate is only slightly higher than my previous test (in previous post) even though I started taking a B-complex, although I probably haven’t been taking it long enough

I raised my folate level from bottom of range to top of range in 2.5 months with 1 x Thorne Basic B. By taking 1 x Igennus Super B you are only getting 200mcg methylfolate. I would increase to 2 tablets daily to give 400mcg, the same as in Thorne Basic B. If that doesn't improve your level within another couple of months I'd consider changing brand.

My Vitamin D has dropped slightly, I'm not sure if this is because I stopped taking the Vitamin D days before the test.

Your Vit D level shouldn't have dropped, it should have increased even though you left your supplement off for 10 days before the test. What supplement are you using? Are you taking D3's important cofactors, in particular magnesium and Vit K2-MK7?

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Thanks for reply

I thought about taking a mega mineral complex since it contains Iodine, but you have said that ‘Iodine deficiency should be treated under the guidance of an experienced practitioner as there is a protocol and cofactors needed’.

I don’t have any dairy but I do consume other foods that have calcium like nuts, seeds, beans, leafy greens but I am not sure if that is adequate enough. I have not had my calcium tested; do you know what would be the best type of test if I wanted to get it checked (urine, blood etc)?

Yes, it does contain 14mg Iron so I was unsure about taking it since my serum iron is already above the range. I also haven’t had any tests done for everything else that the mineral complex contains, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Selenium, Chromium, Molybdenum, Boron.

Will start taking 2 x Igennus Super B complex.

I know now for next time, if I get another blood test done that I can continue to take Vitamin D but on the day of the test to just take it after the blood draw. I am taking Nu U Nutrition Vitamin D 3000 IU

amazon.co.uk/Supplement-Abs...

I am not taking magnesium or Vit K2-MK7.

Is it best to just go and speak to my GP regarding my Iodine level or if you have any other advice/recommendation. Again, I did show my medichecks results to GP but they said everything is normal.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to AJ-AJ

I have not had my calcium tested; do you know what would be the best type of test if I wanted to get it checked (urine, blood etc)?

No idea which test is best. Maybe ask GP to test, saying as you consume dairy you're a bit concermed about your calcium level and will he/she check.

I am not taking magnesium or Vit K2-MK7.

There are important cofactors needed when taking D3, as recommended by the Vit D Council -

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems such as hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, etc.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds if taking tablets/capsules/softgels, no necessity if using an oral spray

Magnesium helps D3 to work. We need Magnesium so that the body utilises D3, it's required to convert Vit D into it's active form. So it's important we ensure we take magnesium when supplementing with D3.

Magnesium comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds if taking tablets/capsules, no necessity if using topical forms of magnesium.

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

thefamilythathealstogether....

drjockers.com/best-magnesiu...

Check out the other cofactors too (some of which can be obtained from food).

Is it best to just go and speak to my GP regarding my Iodine level or if you have any other advice/recommendation

I don't know how much a GP will know about treating iodine deficiency. If that was me I'd do some research into the protocol/cofactors needed, mention to your GP that your iodine test places you in the "moderate iodine deficiency" category and present your research and ask if he/she will do anything. I don't know where you'd find a practioner experienced in treating iodine deficiency, it doesn't normally come up here as iodine deficiency is rare in the UK.

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