Is Your Favorite on this List of Functional Doctors?

[Heloise]

There is one more day to watch these videos. Dr. Justin does great interviewing and you can choose any to watch for one day and seventeen hours.

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[Heloise]

In the Justin and Evan Brand interview they break down the b vitamins. B1, B5 the adrenal vitamin, B6 is for neurotransmittesr, B9, Folate, B12 for mitochondria and methylation. Low stomach acid will hold back digestion and not induce the pancreas and gall bladder to produce. Good bacteria will produce B vitamins.

Quinoa may be a molecular mimicry and cause more autoimmunity.

Clearing infections will produce energy.

They run a stool sample and make an analysis.

Your thyroid is compared to the rpms on your car. Adrenals help shift your car into different gears or even downshift. The mitochondria is like the oil, lubrication and fuel to run the engine.

Sugar burners are much more stressed than fat burners.

[Heloise]

Arsenic reactivates Epstein Barre and it's often in your water.

Environmental Working Group EWG.com is beginning to make a label showing whether the product is safe.

Binders like charcoal, zeolyte and clays are binders to help toxins exit the body.

When the liver is overwhelmed, that is where the deiodinase enzymes are made which act on the thyroid T4 to convert it so that is impaired. Toxin induced loss of tolerance where you are limited in what you can eat due to lack of glutathione.

[Hidden in reply to Heloise]

Do you recommend castor oil packs on the abdomen to help decrease liver toxins from the blood? How does the liver become overwhelmed? is it unsaturated or saturated fat or junk foods made with white processed flour, colourants, and sugar or is it metals and contaminants in the water? If people have an enzyme D102 genetic fault, how can the thyroid overcome overload from these toxins which overwhelm the liver to convert T4 to T3? Will stool tests be able to diagnose a vitamin or mineral deficiency such as zinc and copper which are essential trace elements with selenium to convert the T4? Sorry to overload you with questions.

[Heloise in reply to Hidden]

Great questions and easy; yes, to all of them. The liver is overwhelmed with toxins and also as fatty liver. These great guest speakers have access to all the current tests but are rattling them off so fast it's hard to get them. They've mentioned four or five genes involved but we know that isn't as important as other areas. I'm trying to jot down some pertinent action or herbs that are mentioned. As you know they usually use natural products that can be found online. Some are assimilating their own formulas as mentioned with fulvic acid and humic acid. These things are relatively new to me so there is still plenty to understand.

The D102 as with other blockage from genetic snps may need to be addressed by not needing conversion and just taking T3. But helping your liver detox pathways can be achieved with methods these people seem to understand, especially Dr. Justin. I'm impressed and he's conducting the interviews. He is also being interviewed.

I don't want to say we are hopeless but I see just how formidable our opponents are.

If you can listen to the last few minutes on any of the interviews they cover high points which will build the picture for you.

[Angel_of_the_North]

Sadly, there are very few functional doctors in the UK.

[Heloise]

Angel, these doctors are treating patients all over the world. It's astonishing. I don't know if they Facetime or Skype but people send in a stool sample and perhaps get blood tests or other tests from a local lab. I know Tom O'Bryan has a program for people elsewhere and makes recommendations. The technology is so excellent they can figure many aspects of your health and RNA testing determines underlying sensitivities. I think this is going to change the way we are treated because they try to avoid pharmaceuticals. These doctors are so intelligent and dedicated which is clearly shown in these interviews. Truly amazing.

[Heloise]

If you are interested in coffee enemas Dr. Danner points out the effective detox it is. Often used in cancer therapies. She includes many practical pointers.

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[Heloise in reply to Heloise]

She also talks about seed oils regarding female hormones. Pumpkin seed oil, sesame and sunflower useful but need to be organic and fresh. They feed production of progesterone which is often too low. Sometimes both estrogen and progesterone are low.

[Heloise]

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This interview hones in to the thyroid attacks and what causes them and other toxins. any theories on iodine in this segment. He is also in the Lyme world.

Other interviews touch on the emotional and trauma involved in autoimmune issues.

[Heloise in reply to Heloise]

He also discusses drainage. Glimph and lymph drainage massively important in detox. Parasites are everywhere and a definite secondary problem.

[Heloise in reply to Heloise]

OMG, Jay discusses parasites like worms and the evacuation he himself experienced. There are rarely any good tests for parasites. He mentions mimosa pudica for treatment. Only listen to this video if you have a strong constitution although it is also comical.

[Heloise in reply to Heloise]

This interview brought out the deep understanding they have toward autoimmune conditions. How parasites can live in mold, how lyme, Epsteine (did you know was a herpes virus) and heavy metals are directly linked to thyroid disease. Research has tied together the toxins, lack of drainage and pathways out of the body may be blocked which can be treated. The improvement of charcoal binders to biocarbon which also repairs as well as bind toxins. Fascinating interview.

[Heloise in reply to Heloise]

All of these doctors have websites and share their protocols if you feel you fit into some of these categories. They also make their own formulas. This interested me as it is vital to our health. google.com/search?q=jay+dav...

[Heloise]

Interview with Todd Watts. thyroidresetsummit.com/expe...

Thyroid and Infections. Epsteine, protazoans, H. Pylori, Blasto, Histo are top infections with thyroid patients. H. Pylorie can be tested by blood or stool or even Ita breath test. Low HCL must be addressed first. It's your first line of defense. Acids produce actions of some sort. Blastocystis hominis infection is another. Smaller infections can be stimulated by parasites create an upregulating of the Helper 2 cells which than upregulates two cytokines; interleuken 4-14 cells, etc. etc. so one contributory thing sends our immune system into chaos. It's exciting to see how much discovery has been made.

Feed good bacteria in microbiome and kill bad bacteria. Celiacs can eat the bread in Italy. Why? Because there is something about U.S. grain. It kills bacteria that forms B vitamins.

[Heloise in reply to Heloise]

Todd also relates how he forms that treatment substances using a combination of ingredients which he developed with specific pH.

Lyme disease can recycle when you have parasitic infections. One involved in Hashimoto's is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersi...

Todd relates the different brands of parasite remedies like Para one and Para two and others. Also Noni, Wormword, oil of oregano, neem, berberine, clove, etc. Often you have more than one gut infection. If you would like to find out if you could exude some take some mimosa pudica,

Justin mentions my favorite, Serrapeptase, as a biofilm buster. Bio 1 and Bio 1 may show a combination of essential oils that can break up biofilm.

Some well water contains aresenic that downregulates ATP. Hard on the immune system.

[Heloise]

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There are only a few hours left to view these very impressive interviews. Dr. Hirsch goes into the bacterial infection that is often found in hypothyroid patients which is Bartonella.

A Graves patient of his was treated for this and recovered from her thyroid problem.

He also brings out the various glandulars and hormone he uses on patients. Many more than I realized.

fixyourfatigue.org is his site and more information there if you are interested.

[wellness1]

Great notes, thank you Heloise. I listened to a couple of these. Interesting that there was disagreement over desirable ranges and suppressed TSH. The practitioner from Arizona, Guillermo Riaz, was singing the praises of Nature-throid and WP Thyroid. Their manufacturer, RLC Labs, is located in Arizona and they have a close relationship. To the extent that infections and toxins undermind health and healing, it would be wonderful if testing and treatment were more available and affordable.

[Heloise in reply to wellness1]

Hmmm, I'm just tuning into Riaz as I still have an hour on the summit and didn't realize K2 was so difficult to find in the diet. The more you add ingredients to foods, the more you can eat them??? I think he was talking celery in chicken salad but still. I'm glad he touched on anemia especially iron deficiency from chronic disease but you are not really anemic. It's a protective mechanism in malaria and also Sickle Cell but it's better to correct the infection or hormones rather than take extra iron. Iron can actually cause oxidation. Spinach has a lot of iron but not absorbable until converted. He looks at big cell anemia as well as low ferritin which was interesting.

Dr. Bergman calls both hypo and hyper Hashimoto's and he agrees because early Graves often becomes hypothyroidism. Flori-Cal might be useful for Graves, also Lithium Carbonate or high dose carnitine. They may block iodine receptors but your thyroid contains loads of iodine which will still be released. One grain of NDT has 120 grams of iodine. Two molecules of iodide make iodine. Here is where he said Naturethroid is closer to the USP than Armour which can be up to 10% but Naturethroid is 2%. All natural thyroid in the U.S. contains lactose even if not disclosed. This low amount does not cause reaction. Tyrosint is a pure T4. But the reason you may need more Naturethroid is the absorption problem as opposed to WP. He thinks multi-dosing may suppress the TSH and send you into hyper. Then you might be resistant and reduce receptors for hormone.

Some of this interview seemed controversial but he actually made some sense on his side.

[Heloise]

Oh, this was interesting, too, about fasting before a test. Important to fast when NOT taking hormone because you will test low. Not sure how that applied to us, did you understand that? It's important to wait until after the test to take your dose. For ovulating women you take test on day 17 of ovulation.

[wellness1]

It was a bit confusing. There were a couple of things that didn't make sense to me (like what he said about divided dose) and some things he said that contradict what many here think (e.g., suppressed TSH). Sometimes I couldn't be sure whether he wasn't explaining his views well or whether his argument wasn't sound.

He thinks divided dose "pushes people more into the TSH suppression side of things which can cause a lot of symptoms such as palpitations, hair loss." He mentioned the circadian rhythm of thyroid hormone as an argument for taking it all in one go. (!) He said people who are taking multiple doses "are using it like caffeine, using it more like a stimulant. Just like you can become insulin resistant, if you're running that metabolism too high and creating too many ROSes (assume he means reactive oxygen species), you can become thyroid resistant. A good indicator of that is this scenario: you have a person with a suppressed TSH - 0.00001 that is tired, some fatigue, hair falling out, gaining weight because you are running that engine so hot that your body is reducing thyroid receptors." But suppressed TSH doesn't indicate the metabolism is 'running too high' when FT3 isn't high. The host asked him about this, the scenario when TSH is suppressed, but the T3 isn't optimal and symptoms aren't under control. He asked him which is more important, the TSH or the T3 and Dr. Ruiz said the TSH, because it's your thermostat. He likes the TSH in a narrow window between 0.5 and 1.0, believes in calculating dose by body weight and never taking a supraphysiologic dose. He believes if the patient isn't well in this scenario, it's because of other factors, not the thyroid.

Heloise, you asked if I understood the part about fasting before testing. In a word, no. He was a bit all over the place. This is how I heard the exchange:

JM: Very interesting. And are you always testing them fasting? Taking their thyroid support after their test?

RG: Tons of research shows not only important to test fasted... this is the thing: it's only important to test fasted, it's most important to test fasted if you are not taking any thyroid medication. Because that is your output, your personal output. If you're taking thyroid medication, try it next time with your patients. If you test them next time without thyroid and they're on thyroid support, their T3 and T4 are going to be low. Next time take their thyroid and test them again, their T3 and T4 are going to be through the roof. Because whenever you take exogenous hormone, the gland that produces it will be shut down a little bit which is good in the case of Hashimoto's becuse that hides the thyroid from the autoimmune process. It shrinks it, lets it rest, lets it heal. We see countless patients who used to have nodules, who no longer have nodules because we're suppressing their thyroid. So testing it fasted, and looking at the free levels and they're low, that doesn't mean you don't have the right amount. It means there's a 24-hour window of thyroid hormone bio-availability and your're due for some thyroid, as long as the TSH is within that range." I think he may be using fasting (consuming only water) interchangeably with not taking thyroid hormone replacement prior to the test. We've had discussions on the forum about timing of dose as it relates to timing of blood draw, but his explanation was confusing. The host tried to follow up and asked if the result from testing a few hours after taking thyroid hormone would be used by a conventional doctor to lower the dose, but he ignored the question and talked about testing on Day 17 for pre-menopausal women. The host asked him if that's because following ovulation, progesterone increases TPO and Dr. Ruiz said, "I don't remember. Then test first thing in the morning, fasted, before med, day 17 of cycle for good consistency." (!) The host said, "I thought you said test after taking thyroid hormone." Dr. Ruiz replied, "I was making the point it doesn't really matter, but for simplicity, just easier for our staff to educate patients that are not taking thyroid to do it. Once you're taking thyroid hormone, the rule's out the window."

So no, I did not understand that.

[Heloise in reply to wellness1]

It took three tries to understand this word but it turns out to be Indican. Have you heard of it? drkaslow.com/html/urine_ind...

[Heloise]

THAT WAS GREAT. Yes, it was difficult to keep on track with him. I reset and listened several times and at times thought I understood them. I think the part about testing they confused each other. I've done it both ways but I don't think you need to fast for TSH testing but if you are doing other tests maybe you should. What do you do?

As far as splitting the dose (but he also said it wasn't like caffeine) you may not feel that you are on a higher dose than you need and possibly go for a month or more without noticing your were overmedicated. Then your TSH may go below .5 which made some sense. If you are being tested often maybe watching TSH closely and regularly might be more relevant but not many have the privilege.

There were a couple of talks that touched on oxygen, oxygen robbing nutrients and the fact we are carbon, hydrogen and ?oxygen. Couldn't pay enough attention but still got a lot out of the rerun and I was going to watch Wendy but was sidetracked. I've decided that each bad effect or condition is connected to a bacteria or virus. If bartonella seems fond of the thyroid maybe all the others have a certain fondness for other body parts as well. That should be easy enough to corroborate.

Reed was interesting and didn't believe in treating the condition which is probably better. He could have been a bit more expository but he uses the testing he feels shows the overall status of the patient. That may be better than a list of symptoms. I don't have many symptoms but I'm certain there are things that are not quite right. Stamina and strength are part of it which you don't often notice. Hopefully they will reveal more about testing. I was frustrated several time when they rattled off a multisyllabic test or herb. Some I misspelled but Google figured it out for me, haha but others I will never know.

I am going to order some mimosa although I've taken oil of oregano and other detox herbs. You can pick up parasites anywhere so it may be the one constant in all chronic conditions.

Thank you for all the feedback, Wellness, you always come through.