Trying to self medicate with first Nature Throid and now Armour - struggling - help
Now reached 2 3/4 Armour but feeling generally OK but getting deposits of what I think is Mucin around knees = painful!! Plus numb fingers on right hand - ? Carpal tunnel?where do I go for help? I have been with Physio for months with hand but no longer her zone !!
Any advice very welcome. janveron
For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4, FT3 plus TPO and TG thyroid antibodies and also very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12
Low vitamin levels are EXTREMELY common
Many symptoms suggest under medication
Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies or vitamins
thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...
Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random
All thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. Do not take Levothyroxine dose in the 24 hours prior to test, delay and take immediately after blood draw. This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)
If also on T3, or NDT make sure to take last dose exactly 12 hours prior to test
Do you have Hashimoto's?
If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).
About 90% of all hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's. Low vitamins are especially common with Hashimoto's. Food intolerances are very common too, especially gluten. So it's important to get TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once .
Gluten intolerance can make mucin worse
Link about thyroid blood tests
thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/t...
Link about antibodies and Hashimoto's
thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...
thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...
List of hypothyroid symptoms
thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...
See results to grey goose!!
some advice please. Have been doing well on Armour but supplier has sent Nature-Throid - Armour out...
swop when my Armour runs out or gradually change by doing 2g Armour 1gNT, then 2g NT 1g Armour and...
I have been thinking about trying to find a pharmacy willing to substitute Armour for...
another 2 months. Because they have stopped production, I’ve just ordered a supply of Armour.
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Do you ever get your bloods done? Sounds like you could still be under-medicated. Or have nutritional deficiencies. If you have any results post them here with ranges. What we need to see are:
TSH
FT4
FT3
TPO antibodies
Tg antibodies
vit d
vit B12
folate
ferritin
That will give a clearer idea of what's going on.
Date 17/10/2018
CRP. H 6.60 Under 5.0
Ferritin. 129.0 13-150
TSH. L 0.03 0.27 -4.20
FreeT4. 17.50 12.0-22.0
FreeT3. 5.17 3.1-6.8
Anti(peroxide). H. 52.9 Below 34
Anti(glob). -115 Below 10
Vit D 77 Above 50 OK
Vit B12 H 1063 Reduce dose below 569
Folate. 17.70. 8.83 -60.8
I'm sorry, but we do need the ranges for those results. Ranges vary from lab to lab, so very important we see your particular ranges.
OK, so your CRP is well over-range, meaning that your ferritin level is not reliable - high inflammation raises ferritin levels.
We don't care about the TSH.
Your FT4 is just about mid-range. But your FT3 is slightly over mid-range. Some people would feel well with that level, but others need it higher. There's room for an increase in dose if you feel the need.
Your antibodies are saying you have Hashi's, but I imagine you already knew that. Have you tried going gluten-free? Some Hashi's people are gluten-sensitive, and cutting out gluten makes them feel much better.
Your folate is good, but impossible to tell about the vits D and B12, because we need an actual range, not just someone's opinion. A vit d of 'over 50' is a bit vague, and 77 probably wouldn't be high enough for a hypo. Don't worry about the vit B12 being high, but is that a serum or an active test? The range would tell us. Are you supplementing B12?
Sorry - rectified