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Please don't laugh but does anyone knows the recipe for bone broth that should help with gut absorption?

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I already explained my situation in previous posts. Just to summarize I was felling badly for 7 years on T4 (200 mcg) and I just started to self medicate with T3 by lowering T4 and adding T3. There is also obviously something wrong with absorption of meds in my gut and I was advised by a wonderful lady here, called Greygoose I think, that I should try healing this with bone broth. However I never made something like this in my life and I don't have a clue how to do it. I know this isn't a cooking channel and I am not searching for Jamie Oliver, I just need someone who knows basic recipe. Just please not with chicken, we don't eat chicken in our house, we have 5 parakeets and 7 year old pet ruster who is toilet trained (meaning he has the place where he does this :) ) and sometimes likes to sleep in bed with my husband and me :)

P.S. Ruster is in fact rooster but my youngest didn't know how to spell it correctly when he came so this name stayed.

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Kes8 profile image
Kes8

I tongue in cheek call it smug stock - due to wellness brigade but essentially that's all it is.

I boil bones of whatever (generally chicken) add water, apple cider vinegar with mother and a bay leaf.

You could add any number of vegetables so often add onions, carrot and garlic and turmeric and lots and lots of herbs.

I often brown the bones for a better colour and flavour.

The trick is low and slow for as long as possible 8-24 hours.

in reply to Kes8

"apple cider vinegar with mother "???

Your poor mother! :-D :-D :-D

in reply to Kes8

Thanks. Oh my... this sounds time consuming. I am usually a "fast cook" I don't usually make any dish that takes more than 45 minutes to prepare :( Do you cook only bones or meat as well? I can't tolerate garlic, I feel very sick every time I have it. Do you consume this once a day or more?

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Kes8 in reply to

Yep its the time factor that makes it the good stuff and allows the nutrients to go into the broth from the bones.

If you don't like garlic - simple don't put it in!

I tend to have it as a warm clear soup/drink daily or use it in stocks of other soups only once a day.

Sometimes I use the leftover bones from roasts etc other times buy bones from the butcher and roast those before making the broth.

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Jazzw

greygoose - was it you? Do you have a recipe? :)

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greygoose in reply to Jazzw

Me? No, I do that sort of thing for my hypo dog, but I wouldn't consume it myself. I'm not very hot on animal produce?

I suggested to the OP that she post a question asking if anyone had a recipe because I don't have one myself. But, I have heard it's great for healing leaky guts. :)

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Jazzw in reply to greygoose

Ahhh. :) Lucky doggy to have you. :)

Not sure I’d fancy making bone broth for myself either though I bet it’s really good for humans too.

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greygoose in reply to Jazzw

I'm sure it is. All that collagen. The dog loves it! lol

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shawsAdministrator

This is a recipe which I think you'll find helpful:

wellnessmama.com/5888/bone-...

in reply to shaws

Thank you. Only in my case it can't be made of chicken bones. Birds are part of our family so we don't eat them. No chicken, turkey, duck, goose or anything with feathers (I hate to use word "poultry" it is degrading to domestic birds like they are some kind of thing and not a living being). So maybe I can do it with beef but I never did any cooking with bones. Wow, it's going to be hard...

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shawsAdministrator in reply to

Yes beef will be fine. If you have a local butcher's shop I'm sure he would have bones available as they are rich in marrow. Another recipe:

hemsleyandhemsley.com/hh-on...

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humanbean

I've never made bone broth myself, but as far as I can tell it is just a fancy name for meat stock. I know that it can be made with different types of bones e.g. beef, poultry, lamb. I've never heard of anyone using pig/pork bones though, but I don't know why.

If I was going to make bone broth I'd probably want to try beef bones.

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humanbean in reply to humanbean

Ooh, I just remembered... Some people use fish bones and fish heads.

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Fruitandnutcase in reply to humanbean

Oh goodness. As I child my gran used to get fish scraps from the fishmonger and boil them up in an old pan for the cats , honestly I’ve never eaten bouillabaisse since. When we go to northern France where seafood and fish reigns there are all these people tucking in and loving it and all I can think and smell is the cooking cat scraps. Yuk!

I do eat salmon, cod and other types of fish.

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greygoose in reply to Fruitandnutcase

I've never seen bouillabaisse in the North of France. You wouldn't have the right type of fish. Bouillabaisse is a dish from Marseilles. It's pretty awful, anyway. lol Tried it once but never again. And, yes, I can remember the smell of fish scraps being boiled up for the cat. Ugh!

in reply to greygoose

We used to give our cats "Lights", a piece of sheep's lungs from the butcher, boiled in plain water. It looked and smelled disgusting but our cats loved it!

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greygoose in reply to

I've cooked lungs for the dog - many years ago, they used to sell them in France for human consumption! Don't think I could eat them myself, though. You don't see them anymore.

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Fruitandnutcase in reply to greygoose

You’re right - Marseilles for bouillabaisse and huge piles of fruits de met for Normandy and I think they do some sort of fish stew. It’s all ‘cat fish’ to me.

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greygoose in reply to Fruitandnutcase

Yes, I'm very picky with fish and stuff. These huge piles of sea food fill me with dread! They all look so menacing. :(

in reply to humanbean

Oh, that would be much easier for me. We eat beef (not that much of it) but looking at the beef bones would make me real sad. Fish would be definitely easier. So I guess it's something like a fisherman soup only with no tomatoes, potatoes and other vegetables they put in it?

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humanbean in reply to

I've never cooked bone broth of any kind myself. I've just read about it quite often (including using fish) and I keep meaning to do it, but never quite get my act together. But "fish bone broth" is easy to find instructions for on the web.

in reply to humanbean

Thanks.

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SlowDragonAdministrator

You can buy ready made too

Also this recipe/how to

hemsleyandhemsley.com/recip...

in reply to SlowDragon

Thank you! Is there a brand that you can recommend? It would be so much easier for me. I don't know what will I do with my husband if I have to cook the soup myself for 12 hours and he hates the smell of cooked meat. I would be able to do that only when he is away :)

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Hashi-Monster

I use a pressure cooker when I do mine... I’m too impatient to boil bones for 24 hours

in reply to Hashi-Monster

Yeah, that's a good solution. Problem is I never had a pressure cooker. I am not much of a cook anyway :(

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G2G2

I've tried several brands & none taste anything like homemade. Commercial bone broth tends to taste like thin broth. Homemade is rich & delicious. The trick is to cook on low heat for as long as possible (around 24 hours is best). I make a lot at once & freeze it. The recipe link shaws posted is good. There's nothing you can do wrong making bone broth.

Try to get bones from organic, grass fed beef. You don't want to be cooking down toxins from commercial beef.

If making bone broth is a problem, you can buy powdered collagen. Look for a brand that's from organic, pastured beef & tested for toxins like heavy metals, pesticides, etc.

in reply to G2G2

I wanted to ask that but I didn't want to sound stupid. When somebody earlier mentioned collagen I though could I just buy one of those liquid collagen they sell around. This would be such a relief, I mean not having to cook bones for 24 hours.

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G2G2 in reply to

Doesn't sound stupid at all. You can buy liquid bone broth or collagen or bone broth in powdered form.

in reply to G2G2

Oh, that is such a relief! Thank you so much. I was already having doubts will I ever really force myself to cook bones for 24 hours. When I posted the question I didn't have a clue that it is so complicated. Buying collagen or already made bone broth is definitely going to be my choice. I really don't care does it taste good, just that it works and that I don't need to make it myself :)

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G2G2 in reply to

I mentioned commercial bone broth not tasting as rich as homemade because I wonder if it's really just regular broth. Or, watered down bone broth. Just be careful that source of the collagen are grass-fed, antibiotic & hormone free. There are different types of collagen depending on what part of the animal is used. I'm in the US & use Dr. Mercola's bone broth capsules. I've also used Great Lakes Hydrolyzed Collagen (powder). You want the hydrolyzed form because it's broken down for easier absorption.

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Thank you so much G2G2! I will check if I can get those brands online.

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G2G2 in reply to

You're most welcome. Hope they ship to the UK. No cooking:) Great Lakes collagen powder has no taste, so you can mix it anything.

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Debsoxford

I do have a recipe which a brilliant herbalist gave me, it will take me a couple of days to find it though, but it really is worth doing, I use a slow cooker, when I post I will pm you

Best wishes x

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Cooper27

I usually add onion, celery, carrot and a broccoli stalk. I try to use peelings (tops and bottoms of carrots, onion peel, just the stalk of the broccoli) so I'm not wasting veg. I tend to put scraps in the freezer and pull them out when I need them.

I also will boil the stock down afterwards, until it's about 1/5 the volume, and then pour it into an ice cube tray to freeze it. That's handy if you want to use it in soup, but would work if you just added a couple of cubes to a mug of hot water.

in reply to Cooper27

Sounds like a brilliant idea!

Butchers usually sell beef or lamb bones, and will break them into smaller chunks for you if you ask. I make stew by getting some bones and pieces of stewing steak or lamb pieces or even chops and add seasoning (I'm lazy and use an OXO cube or two). Several hours in the slow cooker makes the meat very soft. I add veg in maybe the last hour so they don't get too mushy, or cook separately.

Not strictly broth perhaps, but tasty...

There is usually too much fat, so I let it cool, put it in the fridge and skim it off afterwards.

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Cooper27 in reply to

I was told the fat helps broth to keep longer, it's like a seal on the top.

in reply to Cooper27

Yes, never thought of that! I just read one of the recipes posted and they say the same

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Lje05

I do mine in a big slow cooker with a whole chicken. I add celery, carrots,onion and a bay leaf or whatever veg is lurking in the fridge and needs using up. Once the chicken has cooked I remove it from the slow cooker and let it cool enough for me to strip it ( keep the stripped chicken for meals). I return the bones to the slow cooker and add some apple cider vinegar (the vinegar leaches the marrow out of the bones) and I leave the slow cooker on high all night and turn if off when I get up in the morning. Doing it in the slow cooker means I can just put it on and leave it and don't have to keep checking (otherwise I would probably forget about it!)

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Maxxxx

My butcher told me that it was important to bake the bones first so you get a good colour. That is for meat not chicken (which you don't want to make anyway). You also have to skim off the top as its cooking and discard. I haven't done it yet with meat but I make chicken broth all the time by just adding carrots, onions and sometimes celery along with a bay leaf or two and salt and pepper. I'll start adding the cider vinegar (with its mother lol) now that I see it's been recommended above. Just slow cook for several hours and then skim everything off and store in the fridge. It's also great for making gravy and adding to savoury recipes that call for water.

in reply to Maxxxx

I was wondering, does vegetables in broth interfere with healing? I was just wondering, if what we need to heal our guts is basically collagen, can vegetables put in a soup somehow lower the effect of it?

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Maxxxx in reply to

I think they would increase the benefits as there would be more vitamins in the broth.

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Kitten44

I've made it with pork bones, I came across a recipe saying pigs trotters were the best to get the collagen out, but I preferred the taste of using just the bones. First roast them in the oven for about 30 minutes, then boil them in water with vinegar (with mother) for 24 hrs, i'd turn it off overnight and on again the next morning. You may need to top up the water if too much evaporates. I only added onions and garlic. Then you just sieve the lot to get rid of the bones (which at that point all break into little bits with little effort, I usually tried to smash them with the spoon and leave them boiling for a few more hours, just to get more of the collagen and marrow out). Once you get the clear broth you can eat it like that or use it for cooking (i made vegetable soup just by adding loads of veg).

in reply to Kitten44

But as healing aid you drink it clear, I mean with no vegetables in it?

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