Ha Ha - No Statins Available From This Surgery

[Kittylitter2]

Went to see the pharmacist for a review at the GP Surgery - She wants to talk about my cholesterol as it is creeping up, it is now 4.9, I wanted to say - well that could be because my Free T4 is not high enough - but I kept my mouth shut, I didn't expect her to understand especially as they only test for TSH anyway; and she is happy with that. I was waiting for her to tell me to lose weight - but I was ready to tell her to look at results from 2 years ago when I was 2.5 stone more, yet my cholesterol was lower, but she didn't thank goodness. Blood pressure was taken 4 times twice on the old fashioned pump machine, and twice on the digital one - could not get a reading at all, could not pick up a pulse - so no excuse for putting me on statins or any other meds. I have escaped for another year. I know my blood pressure is ok anyway because I test it at home, but it would be higher at the surgery due to anxiety.

[Maggimai]

Hi Kittylitter2

even if your doc prescribes statins you don't have to take them

I don't.

[Kittylitter2 in reply to Maggimai]

I was thinking of that, but then I thought if the cholesterol was not coming down the next time they test, would they know that you had not been taking them?

[shaws Administrator in reply to Kittylitter2]

With proper dose of thyroid hormones, it should reduce. See my response to Maggimai. This is an excerpt:-

Results:

No difference was observed in TSH between l-T3 and l-T4 treatments. l-T3 resulted in significant weight loss [l-T4, 70.6 ± 12.5, vs. l-T3, 68.5 ± 11.9 kg (P = 0.009)] and in a 10.9 ± 10.0% decrease in total cholesterol (P = 0.002), 13.3 ± 12.1% decrease in low-density lipoprotein-cholesterol (P = 0.002), and an 18.3 ± 28.6% decrease in apolipoprotein B (P = 0.018). No significant differences were observed in high-density lipoprotein-cholesterol, heart rate, blood pressure, exercise tolerance, or insulin sensitivity.

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Conclusions:

The substitution of l-T3 for l-T4 at equivalent doses (relative to the pituitary) reduced body weight and resulted in greater thyroid hormone action on the lipid metabolism, without detected differences in cardiovascular function or insulin sensitivity.

[Kittylitter2 in reply to shaws]

I shall print that out and keep it safe for next Aprils blood test - thanks so much very helpful.

[shaws Administrator]

Just tell her that "the higher cholesterol level could be due to the fact that I am on an insufficient dose of thyroid hormones and that means my cholesterol level will not reduce". "It will if I am on an optimum dose and the correct thyroid hormone replacements". "Ideally my TSH should be 1 or lower with a Free T4 and Free T3 in the upper part of the range".

Maybe give her a print-out:-

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

[shaws Administrator]

This is an excerpt:-

Results:

No difference was observed in TSH between l-T3 and l-T4 treatments. l-T3 resulted in significant weight loss [l-T4, 70.6 ± 12.5, vs. l-T3, 68.5 ± 11.9 kg (P = 0.009)] and in a 10.9 ± 10.0% decrease in total cholesterol (P = 0.002), 13.3 ± 12.1% decrease in low-density lipoprotein-cholesterol (P = 0.002), and an 18.3 ± 28.6% decrease in apolipoprotein B (P = 0.018). No significant differences were observed in high-density lipoprotein-cholesterol, heart rate, blood pressure, exercise tolerance, or insulin sensitivity.

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Conclusions:

The substitution of l-T3 for l-T4 at equivalent doses (relative to the pituitary) reduced body weight and resulted in greater thyroid hormone action on the lipid metabolism, without detected differences in cardiovascular function or insulin sensitivity.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[Kittylitter2]

Armed for nxt years tests, thank you.

[Angel_of_the_North]

You could also point out that higher cholesterol is associated with lower rates of mortality from all causes - in older people.

[Kittylitter2 in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

More info to educate them, thank you.

[Kittylitter2]

I bet they will be rushing to buy new blood pressure machines, if they did not work on me, then they may not work on others, and more people will escape bp meds or statins etc.

[Howard39]

Hi

4.9 is not worth them worrying you.

I eat healthy fats- advocado coconut oil nuts etc. Having had all three cholesterol tests done privately I know there is no imbalance and I am fine with that.

I don’t agree with GPs who hand statins out like smarties. My friend ended up depressed from cutting out too many good food groups.

Best wishes

[penny]

I thought that statins did not ‘work’ for women. (I’ve read Dr. Kendrick.). When my GP told me that my cholesterol was a bit high I said “good” and I’ve not heard a peeep since. What does “high” mean anyway? To quote Dr. K. “load of b******s.”.

[Kittylitter2 in reply to penny]

I was reading about his load of b......s quote the other day, first time I have heard of him...I like that doctor.

[Kittylitter2]

I will dig my print-outs tomorrow and take a look at Dr Davis too - thank you

[Kittylitter2]

HbA1C is 41 so one point off pre-diabetes - it was still 41 when I was 2.5 stone heavier, I had assumed it would come down with the weight-loss but it did not, and now I cant even lose another pound.

[Kittylitter2]

Looks like I am closer to my box than I thought.

[Kittylitter2]

Bread is out now!!