Vitamin d level

[lmoran1969]

My post won’t come up including my results so could I ask that on my blood test it has come back as 34.2

Sick of feeling rubbish and want to get sorted and don’t want to get fobbed off xx

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Imoran

Is the unit of measurement nmol/L or Ng/ml

[lmoran1969]

Nmol/L and the range is 50-250

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to lmoran1969]

Imoran

If that is a GP test then the most you are likely to be prescribed is 800iu D3 and that wont raise your level, it is barely a maintenance dose for someone with a reasonable level to start with. These are the guidelines which your GP would follow - NICE treatment summary for Vit D deficiency:

cks.nice.org.uk/vitamin-d-d...

"Treat for Vitamin D deficiency if serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25[OH]D) levels are less than 30 nmol/L.

For the treatment of vitamin D deficiency, the recommended treatment is based on fixed loading doses of vitamin D (up to a total of about 300,000 international units [IU] given either as weekly or daily split doses, followed by lifelong maintenace treatment of about 800 IU a day. Higher doses of up to 2000IU a day, occasionally up to 4000 IU a day, may be used for certain groups of people, for example those with malabsorption disorders. Several treatment regims are available, including 50,000 IU once a week for 6 weeks (300,000 IU in total), 20,000 IU twice a week for 7 weeks (280,000 IU in total), or 4000 IU daily for 10 weeks (280,000 IU in total)."

Each Health Authority has their own guidelines but they will be very similar and unfortunately your level is too high at over 30 to be given the loading doses so you would only be prescribed the maintenance dose at 800iu if you were lucky. You may even be told to buy your own.

The Vit D Council recommends 100-150nmol/L so you have a fair way to go with your level currently being 34.2

My suggestion would be to take 10,000iu D3 daily for 4 weeks. That would be the same as the loading doses. Then reduce to 5000iu daily and retest 3 months after you start supplementing - you can do this with a home fingerprick test with City Assays vitamindtest.org.uk/

When you've reached the recommended level then you'll need a maintenance dose which may be 2000iu daily, may be more, may be less, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range.

Best D3 supplements are D3 softgels like this bodykind.com/product/2463-b... or BetterYou D3 oral spray which has better absorption, due to bypassing the stomach, if you are Hashi's.

There are important cofactors needed when taking D3

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.

Magnesium helps D3 to work and comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

Check out the other cofactors too.

BetterYou do a D3/K2 oral spray as well as just D3.

[lmoran1969]

Thank you so much for this information

[lmoran1969]

Serum alkaline phosphatase is also raised at 139 U/L so hopefully may action results to help me feel better - fingers crossed xx

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[LynneG]

Hi Imoran, Did you realise that when we have a health condition that we need /use more vitamin D - that is if your body has it to use. That is you come down with a cold or anything then your body needs and will use vit D up at a much faster rate. Best way to stop a cold in it's tracks is to supplement high dose vit D - so say 10,000 iu every day for a few days asap. Just mentioning so that you can see how essential it is for our function.

People who have cancer often get their vit D levels up to 200nmol and more, if under a functional nutritional doctor. Up that high you have to be monitored because vit D grabs on to any calcium in your diet and makes you absorb more calcium - which is not great for heart stroke risk if gets too high. It shouldn't but when having vit D blood level taken always ask for calcium level too. (As important to check when supplementing high vit D3 when trying to get your vit D levels up to an acceptable level)

So when supplementing with vit D3 (dont take vit D2 - cheaper /often prescribed by GP's etc because cheaper -it is artificial lab made, which many say cannot be recognised by body and causes harm) So yes, when supplementing with vit D you should always supplement with vit K2 as well. They are fat soluble vitamins and work together (along with vit A and E - get them from foods - nuts/ small fish + seafood/Eggs /Liver

So K2 is not to be confused with vit K or K1 (re blood clotting) The importance of K2 has more recently discovered probably 30yrs ago so don't expect your GP to have a clue about. K2 is required as a co factor to intiate enzyme function that escorts calcium to bones and teeth where it should be rather than soft tissue and muscle where it will gravitate too more easily if don't have proper function with good sources of vit K2 - remember your heart is a muscle too and you don't want a hardened heart tissue or hardened arteries to the brain or heart. So take K2 to insure you have enough (I take vit K2 mk7 Pure Nature amazon 100mcg capsule - take once or twice per day with fatty meal/ food/ teasp coconut oil, olive oil, it is fat soluble vit so needs fat to be well absorbed as does vit D3.

You also get vit K2 mk 4 from certain cheeses/even yellow butter from grass fed cows. Certain strains of bacteria make vit K2 so it depends on the strain added in the cheese making process - highest are Brie and Gouda, Camembert I think - some in hard cheeses like cheddar but not as much. We need MK 4as well as MK 7. Best way to get MK 7 is to take a supplement. Read Kate Rheaume Bleue's book Vit K2 the little known vitamin that could save your life. If you don't want to have the book to hand and all info provided. Kate Rheaume Bleue has you tube videos explaining.

Vit D level - it is best to be over 125nmol. When US speak of there measurement is ng/L so their 40ng/L spoken of equates to our 100nmol/L which is the minimum any healthy person should be in my opinion. Mine last tested this summer was 137nmol/L and I am now still supplementing 2000iu per day to get me thru no sun months. Your body being able to make vit D from the sun depends on having enough bare skin exposed and the height of the sun - cannot make if sun is lower than 50 degrees. Shaddow casts longer than item or you are then too low. Where I live in Sheffield the sun is high enough May to August. More research is looking at that though.

US organisation, the Vitamin D Council - started by Carole Baggerly - carries out the most extensive research - recently on the importance of vit D in pregnancy and breast feeding and beyond. Our NHS advised 400iu - well is devastatingly too little. Look into all their articles based on their research - I will see if I can post a chart if can find re vit D levels and defiency correlation/or protection to put it another way from certain diseases at specific D levels required

I am posting Ivor Cummins you tube video - brilliant! if you want to know anything about vit D. Also if I can find Professor Michael Hollick's - he has researched vit D for over 30yrs - he talks more of doseages and why we need to get vit D every day. Well worth watching.

My friend very fit/active has always walked to work and back/cycled. Started with muscle aches in leg. Couldn't lift leg to climb into works van. Arms ached when doing jobs. Went to GP - obviously a good one as first thing she did is do blood tests for mineral status and vit D. Horrifyingly his serum vit D level was 25nmol/L and as below the range could actually prescribe. But one tablet per wk of 45000iu for 6months (which research shows is not how to do it - but thats the NHS for you) I asked him to take 6000iu per day in addition. As well as 2x 100mcg vit K2. In 6 months he got his level up re check up to 160nmol but was through the summer and made an effort to be out in the sun with bare skin and eat high vit D foods. But it does take time to flood the system of previous deprivation. And his pain got worse before better and we researched and found this to be often the case if have been v deficient.

My sister this summer noticed a huge swelling at the top of spine/ MRI revealed arthritis of the vertebrae, her vit d level was 31. Her GP told her to supplement as she couldnt prescribe as in so called normal range. When she asked me I told her to take 6-8000iu of D3 per day - (natures answer D3 drops 2000iu per drop) - so easy to take 3 or 4 drops absorbed through mouth tissue, I wipe on inside of cheek. Bottle last for ages. obv also K2. I also told her to rub frankincense essential oil on swelling. The swelling has now almost disappeared after 6months.

youtube.com/watch?v=v3pK0dc...(Not working as expected?)

[LynneG in reply to LynneG]

As well as above video watch vit D council research/Grass Roots Dr Hollis presentation. It's Bruce not Michael as I had said before youtube.com/watch?v=FbheaUL...(Not working as expected?)

[LynneG in reply to LynneG]

Vit D chart I mentioned 2013 - couldn't find later one but this will give you some idea vitamindwiki.com/Chart+of+V...