Anti TPO

[Khumaryan]

Hi there! Recently I checked my thyroid hormones and my Anti TPO is 41 (norm should be 34). The rest are in norm. I had gastritis and fever for 2 months. Just got done with antibiotics, and fever has been down for a couple of days. So is high Anti TPO a reason to worry?

[greygoose]

It means you have Autoimmune Thyroiditis - aka Hashi's - like most of us. Nothing to do with your fever. Not especially worrying, it just means that you will get more and more hypo, as your immune system slowly destroys your thyroid.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

What can I do to prevent it?

[Khumaryan in reply to Khumaryan]

If I fix my intestines and gastritis would that stop it?

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

No, it's nothing to do with your gastritis. But, repairing your intestines might help. You could have leaky gut. You would need to see a gastroenterologist.

But, basically, it's your immune system that has become confused, and now sees your thyroid as the enemy, to be destroyed.

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Nothing. You've already got it. All you can do now is try and slow down the attacks, try and reduce antibodies, and replace the hormone that your thyroid can no-longer make enough of.

1) To slow down/lessen the immune system attacks, you need to keep your TSH suppressed - which is, of course, difficult, because it scares the life out of doctors!

2) To reduce antibodies, adopt a 100% gluten-free diet, and take selenium.

3) Have you been diagnosed as hypo? Have you had your thyroid hormones tested?

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

Yes, I have tested, all of them are in norm. Because of gastritis I took antibiotics since I had helicobacter pylori, and haven't been able to eat and absorb normally. Just talked to my doctor he told me to eat well, to exercise and in a couple of months to repeat the test. It may go back to normal once I strengthen my immune system.

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Do you have the actual numbers? Because just being in-range isn't always good enough.

Helicobacter pylori is an indication that you have low stomach acid. Which is a hypo symptom.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

Right now I am taking anti acid pills so that my gastritis may recover. And i took that test while on antiacid. My actual numbers are TSH 2.16, T3 1.05, T4 9.73, T4 free 18.31, Anti TPO 41.

[Khumaryan in reply to Khumaryan]

My Vitamin D is also law.

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Can you add the ranges, please. The results on their own are meaningless.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

Yes, sorry. Here they are: TSH 2.16 (0.32-4.9), T3 1.05 (0.8-2), T4 9.73 (5.1-14.1), T4 free 18.31 (12-22), Anti TPO 41 (<34).

Thanks for helping me

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Well, your TSH says your thyroid is struggling. But your FT4 is good. It's a pity they didn't test your FT3, because the T4 and T3 tests don't give you any useful information.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

My TSH was 3.2 two months ago, after that I got helicobacter pylori and gastritis, and within 2 months it went down to 2.16.

[fortunata in reply to Khumaryan]

If you have low stomach acid, then anti acid pills might not be a good idea.

[Khumaryan in reply to fortunata]

I have now low stomach acid cause doctor prescribed for gastritis treatment. I had helicobacter pylori, and got done with antibiotics, now I have been on antiacid pills for a while so that stomack may recover soon. Doctor wants to reduce it for quick recovery. But at the same time antiacids increase Anti TPO level. So I am kinda confused.

[fortunata in reply to Khumaryan]

Google ‘How your antacid medicine is making you sick’ by Chris Kresser.

[fortunata in reply to fortunata]

Sorry... ‘How your antacid drug is making you sick.’

[Khumaryan in reply to fortunata]

Thanks !

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Who told you that antiacids increase TPO anitbodies? I really don't see how they could.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

I read an article in Google.

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Do you have a link? Because I can't find anything about it on Google.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

I couldn't find it, I will send it to you when I get it.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

I couldn't find the one about the antiacids, but check this one as well drruscio.com/thyroid-autoim...

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Well, I'm really not convinced - or even mildly interested - in that! I'm not sure he really know what he's talking about, given that he couldn't even answer your simple question!

He ignores the fact that antibodies fluctuate, and a blood test is like a photo, just tell you what is going at that precise moment - not before and not after.

He also ignores the fact - or perhaps he doesn't know - that some Hashi's people never develop high antibodies. They are diagnosed by ultrasound.

And then there's those who don't have high TPO but have high Tg antibodies. Like me. If he'd just tested my TPOab he'd have told me there was nothing to worry about. But my TgAB were sky high, and as a result, my thyroid has now almost completely gone.

No, I think that's bad science.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

So what are you doing for that? Are you taking hormones every day?

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Yes. Have been for 17 years.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

How do you feel?

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

OK, in general. There have been some very rough patches, over the years, though.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

But Hashi people generally have higher TSH level, right?

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Depends how much damage has been don't to the gland. The TSH and the antibodies aren't linked in that way.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

I see! Check this one my friend

elephantjournal.com/2014/08...

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

OK, a lot of waffle for not much content. Just common sense advice, really, things a lot of us do, because it's just the way we live. But, I don't know that it's ever cured anyone's Hashi's. And, that article wasn't specifically about Hashi's, was it.

[Khumaryan in reply to greygoose]

Not specifically for it, but it helps. Good advise to keep autoimmune attack under control.

[greygoose in reply to Khumaryan]

Well, I hope it works for you.

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It doesn"t mean you must have hashis you can be down with something else. And 41 isn't much but maybe you shouöd test your tsh ft4 once a year and if you get symptoms.