This reoccurring ulcer (I'm open to other options?) Has to go. I'm sure it's a duodenum ulcer because it hurts within an hour of eating not straight away.
It is soothed by potatoes and greens and non acidic fruit like banana but hurt by too much salt..acid. .
My dietician has be on raw veg juice and I'm sure it's making it worse. As I understand it ulcers like to be coated in anti oxidant rich foods or foods that make a protective mucus layer like oats. Fasting is also necessary I would guess for healing during sleep..or a dry fast of up to 12-24 hours. Too scared to try 24...
But I'm looking for tips. I've been deviating from a grain free diet to eat oatmeal every night to soothe the pain. I then seem to get all over body aches and think this is because I have an auto immune issue which means grains are not ideal.
Last time I healed with re cabbage and sweet potato soups but I hate soup and red cabbage. I'll do it if I must. But wonder if you guys have any other ideas?
Thanks.
Mike
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You have posted in the ThyroidUK forum, did you mean to? As regards a potential ulcer you need to get your doctor to refer you to a gastroenterologist. It may be an ulcer or gastritis or something else, even your rather unusual diet. If it is an ulcer it can usually be cured easily with a course of antibiotics which eliminate a bacterium called 'helicobacter pylori'. However, the cause of the pain needs to be identified before any treatement is started.
I'm assuming you have low stomach acid and low thyroid..
Must investigate h pylori as a cause - it will only get worse if this isn't eliminated. Private labs are available if you're not going to your GP for this. However, if it is a proven case, then the right antibiotics will help and are going to come from the NHS. Mastic gum (expensive) can help afterwards on a maintenance dose to prevent reinfection.
Try to avoid long term use of PPIs if at all possible. Short term therapy may be prescribed and required for the interim, but wean off them carefully as soon as symptoms improve as you'll struggle to absorb essential nutrients and B12 especially on PPIs.
Glutamine powder dissolved in water, taken in the morning is very soothing for gut issues. It worked for me with reflux and I've read it's pretty good in general. It stimulates glutamate receptors in the brain, so avoid taking after lunch or you won't sleep!
Sorry to hear about your duodenum ulcer. I also had one of those. Long-term omeprozole use seemed to heal mine but the above comment is also true. Ideally, you would need to get tested for Helicobacter pilori as this often (although not always) causes ulcers. If you have it, you would need 2 types of antibiotics. If you don't, the doctors are more likely to prescribe omeprozole or lanzaprozole.
My friend seemed to stop his acid reflux by having a small probiotic drink every morning...a yakult or similar stopped his problem alltogether. Advice above is great. About the antibiotics needed first for H pylori . And the fact that PPI's are bad, they will give you a b12 deficiency and they are one of those self perpetuating drugs that make you have to stay on them.
It is possible to get good gut health, it’s for your nutritionist (or finding another one) to tell you how to heal your gut without drugs.
It’s surprising to learn which foods are acidic - like red meat. Eating an alkaline diet is best. There will be natural remedies - I always turn to Dr. Mercola or Dr Josh Axe
I'm in the UK. my doctors are utterly clueless. I've had Hpylori test (which again, is a bacteria naturally present in almost everyone, about 50% + of the population, which simply grows back when killed...)
I'm suspicious whether it's the real cause of peptic ulcers or just a byproduct.
I haven't tried kefir but it's expensive and sounds like another healthshop gimmick. Sweet potatoes and greens have worked best in the past, but seem not to be shunting it this time...
Helicobacter pylori is undoubtedly a major cause of ulcers, most ulcers heal when it is erradicated. HP is also linked to stomach cancer. However, there are other causes of uclers or gastritis and these will become more relevant now that most HP cases are cured. The only way to confirm whether you have an ulcer or gastritis is with endoscopy. It's quite possible that you have a food intolerance or reaction to your diet, only a gastroenterologist can tell. To be honest it doesn't sound like an ulcer, you're not expressing severe pain!!!
We know this from the posts on here! However, you really do need a proper diagnosis rather than guessing you have an issue with your duodenum.
Kefir's definitely not a gimmick, & a doddle to make. Mine costs no more than £1.20 a litre of full fat organic, with £9 & a couple of wated litres for the grains. Michael Mosley states it's the only probiotic to reach the gut. This first article was what started me eating it every day:
Hi, I too used to have pain in the duodenum area after eating. I had an endoscopy 3 times for it, each time was told I had gastritis and sore patches in the duodenum, was prescribed omeprazole each time but it made things worse! Did a stool test privately and found I had H-Pylori! They did a biopsy on every endoscopy and said I didnt have itI I took the antibiotics for it and cleared it up but it nearly killed me! Then I Treated myself by giving up gluten and taking betaine before a meal. I seem to be fine now.
This article may be worth looking at - it's reasonably balanced, but warns of omega 6 (which is usually very high in vegan diets) being problematic to vegans with an inherited gene mutation as it can cause severe gut inflammation. I think under these circumstances it's vital to get some omega 3's to help reduce inflammation in your gut otherwise you'll start getting severe nutritional deficiencies in things like b12. No idea where you could get tested for this gene, but it may be worthwhile.
I know this could be an issue as the husband of a friend (vegan couple) died of colon cancer in his early forties. On the face of it their diet followed a lot of conventional wisdom and his wife is still doing well on it.
I've studied the literature on omega fats and I used to agree with you. I do think one should try to keep the omega 3s in check but I don't believe supplements are needed.
Leafy greens have plenty of omega 3 and 6. Just gotta not overload on nuts and seeds. Walnuts have a great ratio as opposed to say, sunflower seeds, but, the omega 6 'causes' inflammation is likely baloney. It enables it sure. It's a natural bodily function.
Look at ulcerative colitis. They do well when they remove dairy. Animal fat is inflammatory and yes so are refined vegetable oils but not the whole plant food that comes pack with vitamins fibre and antioxidants. I feel a meat eating world is trying to blame pants for animal problems.
I am a vegan first for health, second for ethics by the way. I loved steak like you guys probably do...
I agree we're all different, but I am not sure that means we are so different that one person can thrive eating steak and eggs, whereas another will get sick.
The evidence I see shows eventually when eating a diet high in animal proteins and fats we all get sick, in some way, sooner or later. Sure some get more sick than others, and faster - some pretend they're not sick at all and attribute their aches, pains, loss of eyesight, to the aging process...again, the evidence shows this is not true. Looking at aging populations on plant based diets and centenarians living to 100+ without the diseases we have here in the west...prove that we are what we eat.
bluezones.com - Check out this book. Or the TL;DR version.
As I said, these are rich foods - foods we ate on the periphery to survive. Like the Eskimos in freezing cold tundra - or the ancient Israelites who began to drink milk from their cows during their exile - for which they were mocked. This was an alien practice in probably all of human history and a response to a serious change in the environment: Exile in the desert. Even the bible talks about our time before the fall; and how we ate plants from the garden - only after the fall were we 'permitted' to eat animals.
If I ever want ice cream I use frozen bananas, maybe mix in some creamy oats, a nut milk, some berries...there's so many alternatives - just need the culture to change.
By the way, I've been sick with other health challenges, but for the most part my ulcer is not bothering me after increasing my leafy greens intake. Cabbages and kales are miraculous healers of ulcers. I just lost my palette for them for a while.
I took a look but it's hard to take anything about vegetarian studies seriously. arachidonic acid is produced by animal foods to my knowledge. Milk is like liquid meat.
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