Autumn coming

[mhackett234]

The sun is getting weaker by the week. From about October 1 till March 31 the sun is too weak to make much, if any, Vitamin D in your body. People in Europe and upper North America used to survive by eating hog products all winter. Today's hogs have no Vitamin D because they are raised in warehouse factory farms. I have been taking 5,000 IU's / day of Vitamin D for 6-7 years as well as sunbathing 3 times a week.

[Clutter]

Mhackett,

5,000iu daily is too much for me. 5000iu daily x 9 months and vitD was 390nmol/L which is toxic. I take 5,000iu per week most of the year and 10,000iu per week Dec and Jan which maintains vitD around 90-100.

[SilverAvocado]

I take 2,000iu per day, which has slowly raised my levels from 84nmol/L in 2014 to 110 in 2016. Due another test soon.

[mhackett234 in reply to SilverAvocado]

The current research tends to recommend small adults: 4,000 IU's of Vitamin D3 ; medium adult 5,000 ; large adult 6,000 ; large fat adult 7,000. Sunshine is your best bet always (Too bad 5 months of winter gets in the way.) Your body uses up all fat-stored Vitamin D by the end of 3 months (if one has any stored up). Even people in the tropics now have vitamin D deficiency, in great part due to the profiteering advertisements for sun screen and the fake scare of skin cancer that helps push the product : {

[RedApple Administrator in reply to mhackett234]

I know from personal experience that Vitamin D supplements are not tolerated by some people. Even the absolute minimum daily dose of 400iu makes me ill within two or three days.

[helvella Administrator]

Around 40% of the UK pig population is outdoor.

[mhackett234 in reply to helvella]

In north America, I would estimate for commercial sales that about zero percent are outdoors. It has been that way for at least 40 years with the advent of big corporation franchising of pig farming done in gigantic warehouses. Ditto for chickens. Although lately some more-expensive eggs are marketed as "free range" which probably means they roam around in a warehouse floor rather than being in a personal cage all day. My nephew buys eggs from a neighbor and recently he bought some chicks to make his own eggs. They roam around the yard all day. Commercial meat and eggs are essentially highly processed foods, just like pizza or a frozen burrito or a pot pie.

[helvella Administrator in reply to mhackett234]

Outdoor-reared pork is readily available.

Free range eggs represent something around one half of the egg market in the UK. The definition of free range is strict. Recently the arrival of bird flu resulted in free range eggs having to be housed in barns. This resulted in special labels on the egg boxes and the shop shelves to advise.

[mhackett234 in reply to helvella]

The original comments related to the unavailability of Vitamin D not being any longer in traditional sources: Pigs outside and chickens outside. I eat almost no pork or beef but do eat on average 2 eggs a day. I refuse to pay triple price for so-called free range eggs, as those chickens are fed the same low quality chemicalized feed as the cheap eggs. It is a lose/lose deal with almost any food supply these days.

[helvella Administrator in reply to mhackett234]

And I was simply pointing out that the UK has inadequate but significant levels of outdoor reared pigs and hens.

Hence, consuming hog products all winter could well provide as much vitamin D as ever to those who consume the outdoor bred products.

[penny]

Dr Coimbra treats autoimmune diseases with up to 300,000iu Vit D per day and has done successfully for over 15 years. This is with medical supervision only and should not be tried at home. He recommends 10,000iu per day for our population, which is what I take (along with K2 MK7).

[mhackett234 in reply to penny]

There is a doctor in Uraguay, South America, who cures psoriasis with mega-dosing of Vitamin D. It takes about 6 months to a year for near complete remission. I don't remember the dosage level, but know it was quite high, over 40,000 a day maybe.

[mhackett234]

The billionaires who market sunscreen laugh all the way to the bank. In Australia, office workers have double the Melanoma skin cancer than do lifeguards who spend the whole year and life at the beach. If you are waiting for government to save you from lying sleazebags who move money from your pocket to theirs selling snake oil, sunscreen, waist vibrators, etc., too bad, as government is pretty much owned by these slick-talking marketers. There is one doctor in California who has been taking 40,000 IU's of Vitamin D a day for 10 years in his fight against his own "terminal" cancer.