Raspberry keytones & ache in left knee

[Gamesmaster68]

Hello. I'm 48 and have been taking thyroxine for 20+ years. I take 125mg daily.

I am currently obese and just back on a diet. My weight loss has always been good but read about raspberry keytones as a supplement, so bought some, but am now unsure if I should be taking them with a thyroid problem?

I also have an ache in my left knee that affects my sleep, reading a few other posts before becoming a member I noticed a few other members saying the same thing. I had bloodtests and an M.R.I scan on my back and knee but both were inconclusive results. Is this achey knee a common thyroid problem .

Many thanks . Jason

[shaws]

Jason, if you can get a print-out of your latest blood test results with the ranges and post it will make it easier for members to respond.

If you haven't had a recent blood test I'd get a new one and ask GP for a full thyroid function Test, TSH, T4, T3, Free T4, and Free T3. The test should be the eariest possible, fasting - you can drink water. Also allow 24 hours gap between last dose of levo and test and take afterwards.

Muscle/joint pain is common but should be relieved with optimum hormone replacement.

If you've not had B12, Vit D, iron, ferritin and folate tested ask for these at the same time.

[shaws]

This is a list which you can fill in and give to your GP if you have a number of symptoms.

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

[Clutter]

Welcome to the forum, Gamesmaster68.

Ask your GP receptionist for a printout of your recent thyroid results and ranges (the ranges are the figures in brackets after results) and post them in a new question and members will advise whether you are optimally medicated. If you have results and ranges for ferritin, vitamin D, B12 and folate post them too.

It was vitamin D deficiency which caused the pain in my hip and knee which made sleeping difficult.

Some posts about raspberry ketones are in healthunlocked.com/search/r...

[Angel_of_the_North]

No evidence to show that so-called raspberry ketones (not ketones and not made from raspberries) cause fat loss in humans. Even in rats it needed about 100 times the recommended dose to make then gain less weight than expected (not lose it). However, there is some evidence that rubbing them on your head may help with skin tone and hairloss.

Joint pain is often helped by D3 (should be taken with K2) and magnesium.

[Gamesmaster68 in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Lol. Haven't got a problem with hair loss . Not yet anyway . Not sure if raspberry keytones is a gimmick or not but thought I would give them ago while dieting but was concerned that they effect metabolism and if they were OK to take with thyroid condition. Thanks

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Gamesmaster68]

If they worked it would be a bit like taking ephedrine tablets. Chilli contains much the same things so just eat curry. Don't waste your money. If you want something gimicky, bitter orange might be a better bet.

Often dieting isn't a good idea when you are hypo and it can makes you fatter if you aren't optimally medicated. Same with over exercising (esp aerobics/jogging).

[OrangeGirl in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Angel-_of__the _North can you please tell me more about the connection of over exercising (cardio/aerobics), hypothyroidism and weight gain?

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to OrangeGirl]

You need T3 to exercise - exercise uses up T3 (can be a 70% drop after high intensity exercise). If you are hypo, you don't have enough T3 to start with - even less if you have a conversion problem. T3 runs your whole metabolism, so low T3 = weight gain and tiredness. Low intensity aerobic exercise (yoga, walking, tai chi) is usually OK, but if you stress yourself a bit too much cortisol rises, and high cortisol blocks T4 to T3 conversion, so you get tired and fat all over again. - more or less, anyway

[OrangeGirl in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Thanks Angel. That makes sense. I was working out almost daily doing high intensity cardiovascular and over the last two years have gained almost forty pounds. Have stopped now as suspected it was a stressor but alas the weight continues to pile on. Waiting for another appointment with a different endo who will prescribe T3.