NDT

[Phyloreardon]

Hi could somebody tell me what NDT is? I have just returned from Cyprus where I had a marvellous doctor who put me on some natural thyroid from Germany. Is that the same? As an ex patient of the wonderful Dr Skinner I am terrified to put myself in the hands of a local GP as when I signed on they immediately talked about blood tests and I know they will try to put me back on thyroxine alone and turn me back into a zombie

[helvella Administrator]

You might find my list of abbreviations and acronyms useful:

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NDT is an acronym for Natural Desiccated Thyroid - that is, dried, powdered pig thyroid, standardised and formed into tablets. Makes such as NNature-Throid, Erfa and Armour.

I don't know what you are getting from Germany. Have heard that one or two pharmacies will make up desiccated thyroid powder into tablets or capsules. But, so far as I know, there is no German make of desiccated thyroid.

[Hidden in reply to helvella]

Yes, there is at least one pharmacy that will make NDT capsules. I know that because I was in touch with them a couple of years ago.

[Phyloreardon]

Thanks, don't know what it is, just I feel better on it than thyroxine and T3 and before Dr Skinner and T3 I was like the walking dead even though another endo said I was "normal"

[helvella Administrator in reply to Phyloreardon]

You really, really need to find out. Most especially because you feel better on it. Otherwise you will end up not knowing what you need to get hold of!

Did the product come with any information such as a leaflet, a name, even some spidery writing on a label? Did you get a copy of the prescription? Can you contact the doctor to ask?

[Phyloreardon]

It is by Receptora Apotheke and just says Thyroid U.S.P.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Phyloreardon]

Well that is the same active substance as in Nature-Throid, WP Thyroid, NP Thyroid and Armour.

But no information as to dose?

Or are you in a position to return to the doctor in Cyprus on a regular basis?

By the way, if you click on the green Reply button right on this response, your response will cause an alert, and will be properly threaded. Don't use the black Reply at the bottom of the page as that just responds to the original post!

[Phyloreardon in reply to helvella]

Yes, I am in contact with my Cyprus doctor. She will send a prescription direct to the company I just thought if I could get it in the UK it would be easier. I am also worried about what how my new GP will react to me self medicating. I suppose I had such a fight in the beginning it has made me suspicious. Thanks for your imput x

[helvella Administrator in reply to Phyloreardon]

Yes, quite, it would be easier. If you know your dose, you quite possibly would find that the commercial versions (already mentioned some of them) are just as good. And they are available online. (Buying any of them privately in the UK is excessively expensive and requires a prescription.)

Out of interest, how much does the company charge for the product? (Don't answer if you don't want to!)

[Phyloreardon in reply to helvella]

I take 2 1/2 grains and the last lot for 200 cost €130.54. Don't know how that translates. All depends on the exchange rate

[helvella Administrator in reply to Phyloreardon]

One source quotes:

162.5 mg (2.5 Grain) 100 RLC Labs Nature-Throid £40.98

But you might find that you'd prefer the ability to adjust doses by getting smaller dosage tablets. Also, as this comes from outwith the EU, there will most likely be 20% VAT and a customs clearance charge to pay.

[Phyloreardon in reply to helvella]

Wow, that seems a lot cheaper, where from?

[helvella Administrator in reply to Phyloreardon]

Cannot say on the forum - will send you a Private Message.

[Phyloreardon in reply to helvella]

Thanks. Do you need my email address?

[helvella Administrator in reply to Phyloreardon]

No - we prefer not to use email if avoidable. You should get an alert that you have a private message.

[rosie in reply to helvella]

Hi....will you please pm with this information too....thanks....

[fibrolinda in reply to helvella]

isn't Thyroid S the same ingrediants and make up etc as Armour? I get (Thyroid S) and it costs me £40 for 1000!

[helvella Administrator in reply to fibrolinda]

We don't actually have a proper and official list of ingredients for Thyroid-S.

I don't think it is the same as Armour any more than the other desiccated thyroid products are. That is, they might have similar ingredients and potency, but they are not the same.

[fibrolinda in reply to helvella]

thanks helvella I annoyingly read it somewhere but have no clue... of course... where? I have a list of ingredients from Sriprasit Pharma for Thyroid S, I checked when I bought the book and the list is the same in sttm. ahhhh brain kicked up that it was the 38mcg t4 and 9mcg t3 per 60mg tablet that was the same as armour????

sigh... going away now I must remember (LOL remember) not to try to be helpful when like this. apologies

Linda

[Pepekins in reply to fibrolinda]

I am hoping to go onto a natural thyroid med I have been on levo for 15 years ( I had my thyroid removed due to thycancer and have had various troubles with being overmedicated on levo. The cost is a difficulty for me so if you could message me privately as to where you get (ThyroidS) I would be very grateful. Thank you.

[Hidden in reply to Phyloreardon]

I guess this is what is referred to as "compounded thyroid"; that is, the pharmacy takes powdered pig thyroid and puts into capsules.

[Hollypen]

Hi there, can you please advise the name of your doctor in Cyprus as I am also there and would be interested to visit. Is she an endo? Thanks!

[Phyloreardon]

Don't think I am allowed to give name on here. Send me a private message and I will give you details

[Hollypen in reply to Phyloreardon]

Thanks! I sent you a pm