Just started taking the below for low levels of B12, on day 2 now, is it normal to get twitching? my left thumb has started twitching (30minutes now) moving by itself by about 1cm? Thanks
Jarrows B-Right Optimized B-Complex
Jarrow Methylcobalamin B12, 5000mcg
Healthy Origins 5000 IU Vitamin D3 Liquid Gels
Centrum Advance Multivitamin and Multiminerals
Low magnesium can cause twitching. And taking high dose B12 can lower your potassium.
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Magnesium can be taken in many forms - putting epsom salts in your bath, rubbing magnesium oil on the skin, or taking tablets. Don't bother taking magnesium oxide, it is poorly absorbed. Magnesium oil is popular, but if you are deficient in magnesium it causes a prickling sensation which I personally dislike.
I use magnesium citrate tablets. I'm quite happy with these. But there are plenty of other kinds.
Thanks, will look to increase it...just didn't think it would kick in so fast.
a side effect is a way of telling you to stop taking them
you need to get your vitamins from food a lot of the vitamins are from crushed rock and D3 is from animal fat, try cooking your food upto about body temperature or 100f all enzymes denature at 118f and protein in veggies starts to denature at about 130f
1 gram a day of brown seaweed is what you should research if you sort out the bacteria in the intestines the bacteria will produce enough B12 for you, research Ryan Drum for the seaweed ryandrum.com/seaweeds.htm
also cut out all dairy products and grains these annihilate the flora in your intestines.
machineman, in an ideal world I would agree with you about getting vitamins and minerals from food.
But people who are hypothyroid have low stomach acid and don't break their food down very well which is why so many of us have deficiencies.
And I'm sure I've read that hyperthyroid people use up nutrients far faster than normal, so they end up with deficiencies too. A normal diet wouldn't keep up even if food was broken down perfectly.
So, sadly, supplementing is essential for many of us.
beets provide stomach acid. you are looking for foods high in motilin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motilin and leptin also research carnitine all these are linked to your endocrine system and carnitine protects leptin wellnessresources.com/tips/...
and 30-60 minutes of sunshine a day would provide you with vitamin D but if your in England good luck with that although I think you still pick up the rays of the sun even if the clouds are out as it is all about different wave lengths of light and different waves carry different chemicals sulphur and boric acid are 2 chemicals that are in the suns rays some of the rays do not pass through glass.
you might want to research infra red light place the light behind your knees and see if that helps.
I read a paper by the militaries and there studies carried out on vitamins in WW2 and they concluded that the body does not use the vitamins in tablet form they were trying to work out the cheapest way of giving the soldiers the nutrients they needed.
If you live near the sea go for a swim every day and your body takes nutrients In that way.
one thing would be to start drinking vegetable broth this way the water passes by the stomach acids and goes straight into your digestive system where the villi pick up the nutrients you need B2 B6 and Magnesium and maybe even folate B9 to stimulate the growth of your villi.
remember you have two pathways into the body one is obviously sublingually under the tongue this goes straight into the blood system and the other is in the middle of the upper gum this goes directly into your brain so fluoridated toothpaste is especially dangerous and goes straight into your pineal gland which is obviously really important as it is all connected to secretion of your hormone system. jonbarron.org/article/endoc...
Tamarind, Boron and its derivatives although I would just use boron primarily then boric acid as borax interacts with your stomach acid to produce boric acid, selenium as well as fulvic acid all remove fluoride out of your body and decalcify your pineal gland.
regenerating your villi and cleaning out your liver are extremely important the seaweed has been proven to fix your intestinal problems although it may take a while.
I was told by my endocrinologist to drink at least one glass of milk a day as Vitamin D needs dairy fats to metabolise.
have you researched this yourself to see what the truth of this Is.
fat has been proven to aid in the uptake of vitamins much better, fat carries the vitamins through the stomach acid.
fat in dairy is only 1%, when you apply heat it normally denatures the fats making them unavailable to the body. pasteurisation heats the milk up to 161f
the sugar content of milk is about 56% once you hit a certain age your body stops producing the enzyme lactase that feeds on the sugars in milk this then means that bad bacteria thrive on the undigested sugars and that in turn produces ongoing problems in your intestines one way of telling is if your stool smells this is a symptom of excessive bad bacteria and means you need to restore the good bacteria.
you may want to reduce this in half for your first time just to make sure
this is the best way of having an enema that clears out your entire system
get around 10 grams of sea salt (not Himalayan) and the ingredients must be on the packet else you are normally only getting table salt you need all the minerals
then you get a litre of distilled water you heat the salt in a pot for a couple of minutes this activates the minerals in the salt then you add in the litre of water you heat to body temperature 37 Celsius then try and drink as much within 15 minutes, if you can't drink it all don't worry this will take around 45 minutes to go through your intestines you will then need to be near a toilet for the next 2 hours. repeat this a week later.
avocadoes have 15% and coconuts have 33% fat content both are way healthier than milk
My answer was not very good as you may have been told by your endocrinologist to drink raw milk, raw milk obviously has the full fat in the milk as long as the cow has been fed the proper food as well as cows milk when it was born.
Now the fat in the milk you get in the shops that has been pasteurised and homogenised will be rancid and worthless in fact it could even cause cancer although that is over a long time and not the first time you drink it.
Be careful what the doctors tell you as they pretty much do not have a clue about curing people only keeping customers.
Any chance you hold an ipad or phone with that hand? That happened to me.....figured it out and changed how I hold those things and it quit. Good luck. Sometimes its just that you have injured or irritated that nerve.
My left thumb twitches when my vit d goes low.. when I am feeling really horrible and cant figure out why the twitching usually follows and I know I have to up my vit d..I now take 5000iu per day regardless of the weather..I take fultium prescribed by endo..it might be worth getting ur levels checked just incase..☺if u havnt ruled that out already.
Too high intake of B12 can have side effects like itching,not sure about twitching!
Be careful of seaweed because of iodine which is controversial as acsupplement when hypothyroid.
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B12 is involved in the protection of the myelin sheath - so when we are very low this can be compromised. When we start supplementing it can cause tingling and twitching as the repair work begins.
Regarding the Multi-Vitamin and Mineral you take - the VitK does not detail whether it is K1 or K2 ( as per a previous post of yours ) Also it contains lots of other ingredients you may choose not to swallow !
Yes! You're feeding nerves with B12 the have previously been starved of it. So the nerves are being stimulated. I had exactly this and terrible muscle cramps in my calves. I kept going and it evened out. That whole pill is quite a lot for your body to suddenly get in one hit though, going from famine to flood, so I'd bite it in half and start with half a day.
Also, b12 can cause depletion of other b vitamins when you're supping with it. I discovered that my leg cramps eased when I added b6, for example, and folate seems to help.
Right now I'm actually taking all the bs as individual pills.
Definitely don't feel it's too much at this stage - you've only just started. But perhaps just too much in one go to start with, if you see what I mean.
Zx
You could even bite it again into a qtr and take qtr in am qtr in earl afternoon.
thanks hoping it was this.
Be careful with b6. You can take too much. Andrew Weil has good info on it.
Perhaps also do some research on other water based B vitamins such as B1 in the form of Benfotiamine. If your stomach and gut is compromised then this might be a consideration. Magnesium oil is great to rub in if you get cramps.
Mx
Centrum is not the highest quality supplement. It uses low-grade nutrients such as magnesium oxide.
Various e-numbers; which do not look too good. This website is quite good for it;
I am reading these responses with interest. I had terrible twitching for ages - even when getting b12 shots. It stopped only when I reverted to weekly b12 shots.
Some interesting comments. You can only get B12 in meat and dairy, nowhere else, regardless of what else is said about seaweed etc. I'm sure I have read that this is a different beast, not what we use as B12.
If you were on loading injections you would be receiving 1mg/1000ug on alternate days for six sessions - at least. It is common to have tingling sensations/pains/tiredness at first as this is a sign your body is waking up. Not what you were expecting I guess but a sign of good things. I got a 'headache' in my ears if that makes any sense at all! Everyone is different and will react differently. B12 is water soluble and is peed out in excess so no harm can be done.
D3/K2/magnesium should all be taken.
Folate important as is other B vits, look at product like Thorne B complex.
Hope you're feeling better soon.
Is it really twitching or could it be a tremor? Tremors occur when nerve stimulation falls a little short. Somewhere along the line it is being held up. B6 helps with that situation and good alignment of the spine. All the finger ligaments attach at the elbow so the problem can be in the upper arm. Carpal tunnel is a similar symptom and quite common for hypothyroids.
Thanks all for the replies, the twitching lasted an hour.
At the stage, so early on, I'm hoping it's a good sign.
Again early days, but I haven't sleep better in, recent memory over the last 2 days, whilst taking these.
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