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I've been advised by many of you lovelies that I need a good vitamin b 12 complex...any suggestions as to which brand or complex I need to take? Can't o just eat a spoonful of marmite a day?😀

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humanbean

I take Thorne Research Basic B Complex, one a day :

thorne.com/products/dp/basi...

I also take Jarrows Formula Methylcobalamin, dosage varies.

jarrow.com/product/58/Methy...

Sometimes - maybe once or twice a week - I swap the Jarrows B12 for :

Country Life Dibencozide - this is another form of B12 which is also called adenosylcobalamin. I'm still not sure if it is helping or not - I'm not happy about the fact it also contains folic acid which I don't want.

All the above are easily sourced on Amazon.

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jacrjacr

I agree, don't take the form that is cyanide hence it is no good and the cheap form that is in most over the counter vitamins, but you can find the good form kind online easily

Methylcobalamin.that is easier to absorb.....I will say that many people do best with the under the tongue tabs that dissolve...that is what the dr put my son on...he started out with 5000mg daily for 2 months and then 1000mg a day and also took with a vitamin b complex..because b vitamins work best together .and as always if it doesn't list the form of b12 that is in it, don't buy it.....

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Marz

As everyone has suggested you need both a B12 tablet/lozenge and also a B complex tablet to keep all the B's in balance. B12 works with Folate in the body so both are needed.

From your previous posts - it was also suggested your low iron also needs treating and the Low VitD. Am afraid we need all the foundations firmly in place for the body to function well.

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knackersyard

Certainly no harm taking B vitamins, but I would get tested first. You may need injections.

Also, this will give you a clear picture of where you're at & something to waive at you GP.

bluehorizonmedicals.co.uk/e...

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BonsaiKid

Boots compound vitamins may not be fine. I'm not sure exactly which one you are referring to but the B complex I found contains folic acid which is not fine for someone with methylation problems. You have already pointed out that bioluminence may need methyl B12. It can be a bit of a minefield if you are not careful.

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BonsaiKid

Some people do well on Hydroxycobalamin. It is a form of B12 that is very similar to methylcobalamin. It is not put into the more bioactive form of Methyl right away so your body doesn't use it all up at once. Holistic Health make one as drops so it's easy to take. You can get it from Amazon.

Here's some information about when it may be better to take the hydroxy form of B12:

dramyneuzil.com/tag/hydroxy...

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to BonsaiKid

BonsaiKid,

This is not getting at you, BonsaiKid, this is a very common mistake that is easily made.

Pity the name is actually Hydroxocobalamin (that is, with an "o" rather than a "y" in the middle). I'd have hoped that Amy Neuzil would have got that right. :-)

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Jose651 in reply to BonsaiKid

Hi BonsaiKid

Thank you so much for that link. I have just found out that I have the MTHFR mutation and it really is a minefield.

My GP had never heard of it, or DIO2. Thankfully I tested negative for that one.

I am trying to get as much info as possible and would like a doctor to guide me somewhat.

Have you ever heard anything re people with MTHFR should not take Vitamin K2?

Many thanks again

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Martina

After trying several brands, I've finally found a B Complex that suits me: Metabolics Vitamin B-Complex, it contains folate as well as B12 in the form of adenosyl- and methylcobalamin....It is not smelly and hasn't caused any side effects.

I'd like to give a try also to the Thorne Research Basic B Complex, although I have read that being higher dosage, it might make some people jittery, and I'm not too sure about the smell..

A lovely afternoon to all of you!

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Muffy

I use Solgar methylcobalamin B12 nuggets.

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Reginacrz

I use Thorne Research for B complex, because it has folate instead of folic acid, and Jarrow methylcobalamin B12 lozenges. Avoid the cheap high street shops for vitamins! Useless! I can't believe they can sell stuff that literally won't absorb. Better off throwing money down toilet and skip the trip to the shops.

Hydroxocobalamin is the best form but only useful if injected intravenously. It will be destroyed by stomach acid if swallowed, as will methylcobalamin B12. However, if your doctor decides that your B12 status isn't absolutely below "normal", you probably won't be given injections and just being low won't qualify.

Then your next option is a high dose of methylcobalamin absorbed sublingually. High dose, because you will swallow some and destroy it in your stomach.

Hydroxocobalamin is sold from the same online pharmacy where I get my NDT, syringes are sold on amazon, and YouTube has loads of how-to demonstrations. Was considering it myself but found the lozenges seem to make a difference.

B vitamins are water soluble which means there's no known toxic level. I'm sure there is one but, one would be on a mission to find it. I have done what an earlier reply meant to say and taken 2000 mcg (not mg) for two weeks. Then 1000 mcg for another two weeks. Now, I have 1000 mcg lozenge for a few days anytime feeling energy waning a bit.

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Laoise11 in reply to Reginacrz

You seem to know a great deal about vitamins and I too believe it is throwing money down the drain to buy vitamins at Boots or any high street shops. They are just not absorbed. Can you recomend any name brands your find good. I am new to the UK and so many of the brands I know are not available here unless I spend a furtune.

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Reginacrz in reply to Laoise11

Sorry, you just need to check the labels for the form of the vitamin. I have been caught out by trusting the brand.

Most brands sell a variety of "grades," if you can call it that. Solgar sell loads of quality, bioavailable vitamins but also sell the cheaper, less quality forms. I guess they don't want to lose out on people who are looking mostly at the price and haven't questioned the value. Unfortunately, those people will buy from another brand before they investigate why they might want to pay a bit more. I am not criticising Solgar here. Why should Solgar lose out? They need to stay in business and it probably impacts how much they can price the higher quality vitamins.

I also watch out for the other ingredients too. I once bought B12 methylcobalamin lozenges that had sucralose sweetener which I am allergic and highly opposed to generally. This was from a brand I usually trust and had checked the vitamin form but forgot to check the other ingredients. Hope this helps

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realturbo

I'm waiting for delivery of my Jarrow B Right from iHerb

uk.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formula...

If any wants a iHeb code from me to get a small discount on your first order please pm me (I also get a small discount off my next order when the code is used).

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Marz in reply to realturbo

Are you taking B12 as well ? There is only a small amount of B12 in the above tablet.....

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realturbo in reply to Marz

Sorry, should have mentioned that I've also ordered Jarrow Formulas, Methyl B-12, 1000 mcg,

uk.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formula...

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motherclanger in reply to realturbo

sent you a pm :-)

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Eddie83

If you just want B12, take a good brand of methylcobalamin. If you want B Complex, I use the "MegaFood" brand which makes their product from food sources in NH, USA ... they have B-Complex and Multi formulas.

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Alexandra4

Try the B12 patches available from Amazon my husband uses them as he finds B 12 injections painfull. Why would anyone want to eat spoonfuls of marmite !

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siobhangaffney

Buy them from a health store as they sell high quality. Just a bit of info that may be useful. I get very drained around Xmas with underactive thyroid, muscle tire easily and feel fatigued, but have found that taking zinc and a magnesium supplement in the mornings and b complex and a primrose oil supllement in the evening really helps. My head is clearer , find it easier to get up in mornings and have more energy overall. Good luck !!!

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