Periodontitis and Hashimoto's Research

[Gill-56]

I'm reading up on the suggestion that patients with the gum condition Periodontitis is linked to Hashimoto's patients. Is anyone else aware and researched further? Oil pulling is suggested. There is also mention of the antibiotic doxycycline that is used for periodontitis, which says interestingly this same antibiotic has been reported to eliminate TPO antibodies for some and may be an option to consider in someone with both Hashimoto's and periodontitis. Any thoughts anyone?

[eeng]

Interesting. Doxycycline is also used to prevent malaria. Anything that can eliminate TPO antibodies sounds as though it could be useful, although it can often cause stomach problems, so it couldn't be taken long term - it would have to be taken as a short course of medication to get antibody levels down.

[Hidden]

If you search with the magnifying glass for gum disease or look on my posts for one called "long in the tooth" you will find quite a long discussion on this and some links.

[Gill-56 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you for the feedback and I've taken a look at your long in the tooth post. I'm not sure how many amalgam fillings I have but removal seems pretty worrying! So much to learn.

[gabkad]

Periostat (don't know what it's called in the UK, low dose doxy) helps because it modifies the expression of an enzyme in the periodontal tissues to tip the balance from destruction to rebuilding. At 20 mg twice per day it does not seem to cause any major stomach upset.

However, low B12 also results in periodontal problems.

[Gill-56 in reply to gabkad]

I'm getting my B12 checked amongst others in January. I wonder how long Doxycycline has to be taken for? Thanks for the feedback gabkad.

[gabkad in reply to Gill-56]

Periostat is longterm therapy.

'Statement on Periostat® as an Adjunct to Scaling and Root Planing. Reduces the elevated collagenase activity in the gingival crevicular fluid of patients with adult periodontitis. Periostat® is a systemically delivered collagenase inhibitor consisting of a 20-mg capsule of doxycycline hyclate for oral administration.'

perio.org/resources-product...

[infomaniac]

Now THAT is very interesting....! I have sky high antibodies (that nobody other than me deems important) and I also have gum disease. So am I on the right lines by thinking a course of Doxycycline (followed by loads of probiotics!) would reduce antibodies therefore lessen the attack on the Thyroid?

[Gill-56 in reply to infomaniac]

Informaniac - I agree that it doesn't appear to be important to discuss ways of sorting. I'm just starting my journey with very high antibodies too. First time tested for them was in August so I've no idea how long they have been there. My first Endo visit was 3 weeks ago and he said once you have antibodies you can never get rid of them. Then he proceeded to tell me in 5 to 10 years I'm bound for heart problems! Nice.

[infomaniac in reply to Gill-56]

Something to look forward to then Gill Are you going to give the Doxy a go?