Does anyone else use the above as part of their GF culinary arsenal please? I've also read peanuts and other types of nut aren't suitable for hashi types? As always your kind response is valued.
Thank you.
Mike
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Mike, why aren't nuts ok for Hashi's?
Clutter, I've taken to eating brazil nuts (selenium and zinc), augment my gf cornflakes with flax, pumpkin and sunflower seeds in the morning dressed with homemade coconut milk. I've read that peanuts and phytic acid aren't good news for the thyroid. So I've dropped these from my diet along with almonds walnuts hazlenuts and pecans. I'm scared to reintroduce things as I hate risking another flare up and I'm so weary of it all.
Mike, if you drop everything which some people have had a poor reaction to you will end up on an extremely restricted diet. If you are going to eliminate a food, do so one at a time for 2 weeks, to see whether it improves symptoms and whether symptoms worsen when you reintroduce it and before you eliminate another. Otherwise you'll not know whether it is peanuts, pecans or hazelnuts causing issues and you may have unnecessarily eliminated some foods you enjoy.
The thing is Clutter I've found a restrictive diet that seems to not upset me and I'm so loathed the inroduce anything else as I'm s@@@ scared of feeling rubbish. As I've probably said before I have completely lost all confidence. 
Mike, it makes sense to cut out foods which don't agree with YOU but not to cut out foods which don't agree with others. I avoid raw peppers, onion, celery and cucumber because they give me heartburn but I eat them cooked without problem so I don't find it necessary to cut them out of my diet altogether. A balanced nutritious diet is necessary to regain and maintain health.
It's hideous how illness destroys one's confidence
Thank you Clutter I value your support here. Thanks.
They also say that you should avoid pulses, I can't eat Baked Beans or sweetcorn and I suspect peas too. It's just rubbish. Every thing I love I've had to relinquish. Pants.
Like clutter said drop one thing at the time.
I unfortunately am sentive to most things : corn, rice, gluten, dairy, strawberry, onion, soy, tomato and new potatoes ( because of solanin and saponin which vanishes when potatoes are stored in dark cellar), but I can eat millet without any issues even though it is said to be one of the worst.
I can use almond and almond milk as well brazilian nuts but peanut is no no. Well technically peanut is not a nut it is night shade I guess so no wonder.
But some of the reactions can be down to leaky gut. For that I was given l-glutamine, vitamin A and zinc. It helped. L-glutamine is amazing at least for me but maybe because hashi is not producing enough of it.
So I know how hard it can be with food and stuff.
Remove one food at the time or do food allergy test to get an some sort of idea what to avoid!
I take L-glutamine and I agree it is amazing. However, that makes it habit forming, at least for me. I can't go without my L-glutamine even one day or my depression will worsen dramatically. (I almost always have low-level depression, but with diligent dietary effort have managed to lessen it to a low level about 80 percent of the time.)
Oh I had no idea l-glutamine helps that way as well. But makes sense that amino acids might have something to do with depression as well!
I can be without it but it makes me feel physically better. Don't know whether it is muscles or gut as it does not heal gut lining but triggers stomach acid production.
Isn't soaking nuts supposed to get rid of the phytic acid? Or are you talking about the goitrogenic effect? If so, hazlenuts and pecans aren't goitrogenic.
I agree with Clutter, dropping a whole load of stuff from your diet in one go is not a good idea. It leaves you with a diet that is too restricted to be healthy. You can try introducing these one at a time, and see if they have any effect. And, even if they do, it will only be a temporary effect, not permenant damage. 
Afternoon GG. I think sweet corn, peas in large quantities, new pots and probably raw sweet peppers. I have just enjoyed a couple of toasted GF bread with avocado and smoked salmon yummy. After a little 3 mile jog.
Oddly my condition leaves me for a day or so the brain fog lifts. It is a welcome break but it sort of underlines how bad I feel and or have managed to cope with. Is this normal? Once medicated does the fog lift?
I'm so scared. People seem to suffer intolerably because our doctors first knee jerk reaction is to place everyone on levo which to mind just keeps us out of his surgery until 6-8 weeks have elapsed and the blood results are back in!
The fear of the unknown I suppose. My lunch was superb on a more positive note!
Sorry, I Don't understand the significance of sweet corn, peas in large quantities, new pots and probably raw sweet peppers. Are those things you have cut out, are going to cut out, or that you enjoy?
Please Don't be scared. I know you're a runner, but Don't run away with yourself! One step at a time. There is nothing to say that Levo isn't going to be just what you need. Thousands of people - millions even - do very well on Levo. It's just us 'difficult cases' that Don't do well, and we tend to clump together.
In a way, it's unfortunate that you can across this site before you got medicated. Because on here you're going to find all the people that Don't do well on Levo - except for Rod, of couse, he does brilliantly well on it! But, you see, there aren't any forums for people that do well on Levo, because they're out there, living their lives, oblivious of their thyroids. Not shut up in front of their computers, answering questions asked by other people who Don't do well on levo, like me - but there are far more of them than there are of us! And who's to say you're not going to be one of them. And then you'll be off, running over those hills and far away, and forget all about us. And good luck to you! I hope you do.
You must not compare yourself to other people. You are unique - never let anyone tell you any different. You might have certain similarities to other people, but that's all they are. You are going to act and react in your way, not anybody elses. Was it Oscar Wilde that said 'comparisons are odious'? No, it was Noel Coward! And he was right. Just see what's right for you and never mind anyone else. Just be you.
Glad to hear you enjoyed your lunch. I had home-made steak and kidney pie, broccoli, marrow-fat peas, mashed potatoes and gravy (sounds a lot but it was a small plate so only a little of each - with seconds of broccoli! lol) And for dessert : almond cake with strawberries and cream. Yum!
Sorry, GG the list of foods were meant to be ones I believe to have an adverse affect on me. I must thank you for your supportive message. I have overdosed on research and have alarmed myself to such an extent that I feel there is little hope of ever getting my life back. Your diner sounded nice are they GF or do you not need to worry about such things?
I did try gluten-free, but it didn't do anything to help, so I went back to eating it.
There is every hope of getting your life back! Yes, the research can be a little scarey sometimes, but we're here to give a balanced view of things. And sometimes, it's good to take a little break from all this and do something silly - which is why we somethimes talk about stupid things like Poldark (sorry, bluepetals! lol). A good laugh really dose do you the world of good.
OK, so sweet corn and peas are goitrogens, and potatoes and peppers are nightshades, so it's perfectly possible that they Don't agree with you. But that's not to say that all goirtrogens and all nightshades won't agree with you. We have to try things one by one.
But it's good when you know what's upsetting you and can avoid it. Me, it's soy! Used to be other things, like strawberries, but now that my gland is as good as dead, I can eat them again! Every cloud has a silver lining!
Greygoose - You cheered me up! Thanks.
All,
Do you drink coffee? Some authorities/sources/books recommend avoiding coffee/caffeine. But I got a book from a Hashimoto's "authority" last week - (he has Hashimoto's and has improved his health), and he says DO drink coffee, and put coconut oil in it!
Lord! That sounds revolting. lol
There is a lot of controversy over coffee. I rarely drink it because I rarely like it.
What I mean is, very few people make a good cup of coffee - I certainly Don't! So, I'd rather not drink it.
But, as long as you Don't drink it until an hour after your Levo, I'm not sure it does any harm.
But I'd rather have cream in it. lol
The only foods that seem to directly affect my thyroid are chick peas and Quorn. I feel dead on my feet that day after having either.
I haven't used chickpea flour unless it's part of a flour mix I often buy.....but I love chickpeas and use them in everything.
F
Gram flour is chick pea flour. It makes delicious pakoras. I make them to use instead of bread with soup and things like that.
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So do you just mix with water, knead and bake..?
F
MidnightBlue• in reply to
My friend taught me how to make them, you mix gram flour and water in one bowl, then make a bowl of equal amount of veg chopped small (I use onions and courgettes). Mix together with salt and spices ( I use cumin and coriander), then fry. ( she deep fries them and they taste amazing, but I can't bring myself to use that much oil so I shallow fry).
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Yes...I would only shallow fry...have you tried baking?
MidnightBlue• in reply to
No, I think they need to be fried, like onion bargies, but if anyone has had success baking them I would give it a try!
MikeR• in reply to
yes Flower it's water and chick pea flower mix in a ripe banana and you have a nice pancake mix. Without a banana you have a pizza base or tortilla!
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Uumm that sounds good.
I have been experimenting with buckwheat flour and have a pancake every morning.
Will try the gram flour & banana.....good way of using old bananas too.
Do you have a Nutri bullet?
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MikeR• in reply to
No I don't Flower I have a hand blender but it kind of does the same thing! I'm going to make chicken fajitas tonight with an attempt at chickpea flower tortillas. Wish me luck!
Just wonder whether people who react badly after eating certain vegetables, pulses or fruit will feel the same if they try the same but the organic 'version'. I know that farmers are still allowed to use certain pesticides even if their end produce is organic, but maybe the sensitivity comes from stronger chemicals which are spread in general.
BTW, I broke a very nice bread maker the moment I started using a mix of different types of flour like khorasan (kamut), rye, etc. The paddle broke trying to mix this mixture. So now, I put all my ingredients in my mixer and let it do the hard job.
I react very badly with IBS symptoms if I eat an orange but when I was living in Spain I had local organic grown oranges and was eating 2 a day and no IBS! So yes I believe the pesticides are very much the culprit. By the way those organic oranges were so juicy and so sweet you can't buy the same in the supermarkets here even if they are supposed to be organic. 😤
Yes Rebec, I am much better on orgnic vegetables, pulses, fruit etc but find it too expensive to have everything organic. There is a but though, I have ME as well as the thyroid prob and think it is the ME that is triggered by the non-organics.
Thyr01d yes agreed when poorly and particularly if on a limited budget organic veg and produce is an occassional luxury. I guess growing our own is an option, that however assumes we feel up to tending to an allotment or veg patch when most of the time I feel like just sitting with my eyes shut!
It's true that organic vegetables, pulses, etc are expensive but I found some pulses relatively less expensive than in the shops in Amazon. Some of the sellers sell big quantities like five kg. in one bag. If you have friends or neighbours who are interested in eating organic food, you can share these with them.
Some vegetables are more important to have them organic than others. I once read that root vegetables should be eaten organic because they end up absorbing bigger quantities of chemicals than the ones that grow above ground. I try to get potatoes, carrots and onions organic, for the rest it depends on their price. Sometimes, I noticed that the difference is not so big between the organic and the non-organic. As i imagine I can't mention names of supermarkets, I just want to let you know that in one of the cheapest supermarkets in the UK, one can find organic onions, carrots, potatoes and eggs. I don't want to start discussing the difference that soil association makes between organic farms; the essential thing is to know that their produce should be better although I tried organic strawberries and found them completely tasteless.
This is what I have heard too Rebec, lettuce being one to avoid when not organic because it is sprayed when young and so absorbs all the pesticide etc. The other factor though is where the organics are grown, if grown alongside a road then they absorb a lot of vehicle fumes which has a negative impact on some of us.
I heard of a lovely place in the USA where there is a community that lives with everybody avoiding chemicals, it sounds marvellous.
I grow organic stawberries and raspberries and they are tasty and delicious.
I'm glad you have these soft fruit organic in your garden as they're also to be avoided when not organic. I didn't know what to do this summer: I looked at the normally priced strawberries and at the organic ones and many times decided just to look!!!
We should still remember that our parents and grandparents ate what we might call organic produce but lived shorter lives than some of the present generation. I think that being relaxed is sometimes more important than what we eat.
Rebec,
Correct!! I think it would be more of a blessing to live a shorter life and die before developing thyroid diseases, than having to live much longer and deal with autoimmune diseases - thyroid, diabetes, ME, lupus, CFS, etc.
My father had a saying: better to be healthy, young and rich!! Don't remember though the order of the above!! Unfortunately, I haven't managed any of his suggestions. My mother lived to be almost 99 but suffered from senile dementia for the last 14 years of her life so I hope, if I get to celebrate my 80th birthday, not to live long after that as I wouldn't want my children to look at me and see a stranger.
Oh yes, I too fell like just sitting with my eyes shut a lot of the time!
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