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Hello Everyone,

I am a 23 year old male who has been dealing with IBS and Gerd for about 3 years. I have had blood tests, H-pylori breath test, ultrasound and even colonoscopy. Also a chest x-ray one time I went to the hospital. None of these doctors have an answer for me so I feel like they are missing something. Is there another tests I should get?

Thanks, this really sucks to be dealing with at a young age.

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No answers is what IBS is. What is left when all other diagnoses are eliminated. At any age it "sucks"! Time to sort out what food and drink works for you, or not. Possible including a lifestyle change as well. You have a life time ahead of you, so make some wise choices going forward.

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Pte82

Billyii, the vagus nerve is seldom mentioned yet is charged with a incredable number of tasks, some of which involve the gut. Activated vitamin B1 (thiamine) is needed for proper function but is often inadequate in dosage or because adequate magnesium needed for activation is lacking a deficiency exists. The forms of thiamine mentioned in some of the links are important to become familiar with their pros and cons. These links contain information that further research may offer an explanation for your symptoms that you can discuss with your health care professional.

frontiersin.org/articles/10...

eonutrition.co.uk/post/when...

eonutrition.co.uk/post/thia....

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Bass20

Hi ive just been diagnosed with ibs ive had colonoscopie, cystoscopie and endoscopy ive had ct scans and more blood tests than I can count i was taking omeprazole for acid reflux which I stopped taking which seems to help no end but apart from that ive stopped a lot of my bad eating habits ie takeaway ,chocolate anything considered bad all I can suggest is to eat sensibly and try and keep a record of what you eat so you can identify trigger foods ive already had a bit of success here good luck

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BRdog59 in reply to Bass20

See above answer to IBS and GERD involving the Vagus

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Bmco in reply to Bass20

Did you have any symptoms coming off the PPI?

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Bass20 in reply to Bmco

I was taking omeprazole for acid reflux so obviously that came back which I can handle but I had quite a dramatic change in my condition and quite quickly I have been struggling for the last 7 months with severe diarrhoea sometimes 10 times a day and at times uncontrollably with in a few days I noticed a big change i felt better and went days without diarrhoea at all i could go out without the fear of needing a toilet obviously it hasn't cured it i still have bad days but fewer and further between

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Boxroad

Hi mate I am 58 and started my IBS when I was 26, I had all the tests you could think of then they just said you have IBS and I had to sort it myself. Do you eat a healthy diet? Do you drink alcohol? Do you drink tap water? Do you drink fizzy drinks? How are your toilet issues are you IBS D or IBS C or go between both? All these things can affect IBS, the worst things for me are alcohol, dairy products, tap water, take away food, the list just goes on and on. My IBS was a lot worse when I was younger as I didn’t want to give up alcohol and I smoked, then on a night out I would finish with a kebab or something just as bad for IBS. I didn’t ever drink much as it would make me feel unwell, the first was lager that had to go. For me it took me collapsing and waking up to my go injecting me and telling me I need to take control of what I eat and drink.

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Wayback

Consider adopting the diet from the GAPS protocol. It takes some time to work but it does work. Research histamine intolerance regarding your anxiety issues. The gaps protocol will address all these things you’re suffering from. Be patient with yourself as you progress through the healing phase.

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BRdog59

Have you checked forward head posture? FHP is caused by mandibular retrusion and is diagnosed by loss of the normal curvature of the cervical spine (seen on a lateral X-ray of the cervical spine. The FHP results in effects on the cervical musculature (and nerves from them) with referral to the Vagus n. (The Vagus has effects on the heart, intestines and stomach - GERD and IBS)

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Lookupseethestars in reply to BRdog59

The head forward bit... could you give more info? Or point me in the direction of this as it sounds interesting

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BRdog59 in reply to Lookupseethestars

When the head is in a normal position, the anterior and posterior musculature shares the job of holding the head allowing the musculature to rest intermittently; but, when the head is forward, the posterior musculature must do all the work and, it fatigues (hence the head and neck pain). When the nerves from the affected muscles enter the spine, it is at the same level as the Vagus nerve and a referral to the Vagus results. The Vagus then has an effect on many parts and organs: notably, the heart, esophagus and stomach, and intestines. Another common symptom is numbness and/or pain down the arms as the "portal" through which the nerves and blood vessels travel down the arm has been shifted forward and causes impingement. FHP is a common problem with individuals who had asthma or allergies (and a number of lesser causes) during the "active growth" years, roughly 6-20, as the upper jaw is dependent upon the tongue being present between the arches, putting lateral and anterior pressure as the tongue grows to which the upper jaw responds with corresponding growth to accommodate it. When one must mouth breathe, the tongue is in the floor of the mouth, which produces little growth; however, the mandible does continue to grow, and its growth center is posterior to the teeth. If there were a way to attach, I could send you an X-ray of an actual patient. I'll be happy to answer any more questions.

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BRdog59

I thought I had responded; but, perhaps I was mistaken. IBS and GERD, as well as many other symptoms, is frequently caused by mandibular (lower jaw) retrusion which then causes forward head posture. This situation is often caused by any thing which causes mouth breathing during the early years of growth and development (notable causes are asthma and allergies). This results in an undeveloped maxilla (upper jaw) while the mandible does continue to grow and the center of growth is posterior to the dentition. Definitive diagnosis is a lateral X-ray of the cervical spine. There is normally a curvature of about 20 degrees; and, in FHP, this curvature is lost and the spine is straight, or even forward bending. Treatment is orthopedic elimination of the retrusion so that proper relation of the jaws is in accord with proper relation of the lower jaw to the base of the skull (the temporal bone), which is the cause of the problem. The IBS and GERD is due to referral to the Vagus nerve in the spine, so cardiac symptoms may also be present.

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yogaman

It totally does! Especially at a young age. IBS is a catch all term because patients want to know what they have.

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Smeese

Agree with your previous replies and sorry you are having to deal with this when you are so young. It's a diagnosis which doesn't have much in the way of a standard treatment - doctors prescribe for the symptoms but they don't address the cause which is an imbalance in the gut caused by overgrowth of 'bad' bacteria and the loss of good ones through antibiotics/poor diet/etc. You might have to take a deep breath and stick with a low fodmap diet for a while also reducing sugar/alcohol/junk food. Then take a prebiotic which will provide you with soluble fibre and food for the good bacteria. Next introduce a probiotic like Zenflore or Biokult to build up the good bacteria and add in some kefir or yakult or similar to get them down into the gut. You might need the help of a nutritionist who specializes in IBS.

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Wheredreamersgo

I suggest going for a food allergy test. Unfortunately, there is no real medical reason for IBS but I found anxiety was setting mine off and I turned out to be allergic to wheat. I'll never be cured but my IBS attacks have lessened to MAYBE one a week as opposed to every two days

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