Please help :(

[Amy0302]

Hi I was wondering if I could get some advice, I’ve been experiencing severe abdominal pain for a while now along with Vomiting, diarrhoea, constipation, having to rush off to the toilet, having blood and this horrible slime stuff in my poop. I’ve had loads of hospital tests which show nothing wrong at all! I’m on strong pain killers but they just don’t work. I take peppermint oil too as I’ve heard it can help but no results. I’ve been discharged from clinic because I’m ‘fine’ and it’s got to the point where I’ve even been accused by health professionals of faking! I just really don’t know what else I can do and it’s really getting me down. I’m in so much pain

[xjrs]

Sorry to hear about what you are going through. Vomiting isn't a normal sign of IBS.

In terms of IBS symptoms, here is some information about IBS that I have shared with others in this group in case any of these tips are of interest to you:

IBS can be due to a number or combination of factors - these can be stress (including stress from early life experiences) which impacts the communication between the brain and the digestive system. There are lots of free webinars online at the moment regarding mindfulness meditation which might help. Plus you can ask to be referred for CBT or something similar to reduce anxiety - I would have thought online appointments are available. Exercise can play a major role in IBS in terms of reducing stress, helping your gut microbiome and regulating bowel movements.

There is also not absorbing certain types of carbohydrates called FODMAPs very well, the residue ending up in the colon and bacteria feeding off them causing symptoms. Ordinarily feeding gut bacteria is a really good thing - when you feed good gut bacteria these produce by-products that have great health effects in the gut and throughout the body. However, in some people with IBS bad bugs might have the upper hand over good - these bad bugs may cause symptoms such as excess gas, pain or disordered bowel movements. There is an interesting infographic on this here:

gutmicrobiotaforhealth.com/....

This is why it’s worth trying probiotics such as Alflorex (which has been scientifically studied for IBS) to crowd out the bad bugs and make their numbers die down. If that doesn't work you can try the FODMAP elimination and reintroduction diet. This is normally under the guidance of a nutritionist via GP referral - this may not be possible at the moment so you can read about it online. If you download the Monash University FODMAP app and Kings College fodmap apps, they will tell you which foods contain FODMAPs and in what quantities. You can eliminate all FODMAPs for 2 weeks and then introduce each type of FODMAP one at a time starting in small quantities, increasing over a 3 day period and wait up to 4 days for symptoms. I go much slower than this - only introducing a small amount (1/4 to 1/3 of a normal portion size) of the same food for 3 days and then increase if tolerable or no symptoms and cut back to the previous amount if symptoms for longer and then try to increment again . I've read your microbiome can adapt to handling a new food if introduced very slowly and your bad bugs are under control with a good probiotic. Ideally you want to eat as many FODMAPs as you can since they are good for your health. Many people with IBS don't have diverse gut bacteria - it has been found that people who lack a diverse microbiome are more prone to diseases in general. In the long run, if you can get your symptoms under control, the ideal situation is to have a very varied diet - lots of different coloured fruits and vegetables, a variety of protein and carbohydrate sources including cereal fibres. This may seem a long way off, but with the right treatment all of this is possible. Last year all I could consume to control my IBS was white rice, protein and limited low fodmap veg. Using the approach above (particularly introducing Alflorex) I am now able to consume far more foods - more than I've ever dreamed of including wholewheat bread which is unheard of for me.

If you are also suffering from pain, you may be suffering from visceral hypersensitivity (functional abdominal pain) - there is info about it here:

iffgd.org/lower-gi-disorder...

It is where the brain interprets the normal activity of the bowel as pain - this is due to a wearing down of neurons in pain control centres of the brain which can be caused by PTSD, neglect or abuse in childhood, extreme stressful events etc. The first line treatment is nerve pain agents such as low dose amitriptyline. There is a theory that being on something like amitriptyline for 6-12 months can help the pain control centre neurons to regenerate. Note that amitriptyline can cause constipation, but this can be helpful in people who are diarrhea dominant. Unfortunately I couldn't tolerate these. Linaclotide (for IBS-C only) & Alflorex have helped me with this intestinal pain.

You may also find assistance with anti-spasmodic medication such as mebeverine (Colofac) or enteric coated peppermint.

You can find some info on self management here:

theibsnetwork.org/the-self-...

If all of the usual IBS remedies fail and you are experiencing diarrhea, it is worth getting tested for BAM (Bile Acid Malabsorption), which can cause constant diarrhea - there is a separate test and treatment for that. Good luck.

[Amy0302 in reply to xjrs]

Thank you so much ❤️

[Hidden in reply to Amy0302]

Have you tried antispasmodics x

[Amy0302 in reply to Hidden]

I take buscopan I don’t know if that’s one? X

[Hidden in reply to Amy0302]

Yes it is , hot water bottles are good too x

[Hidden in reply to Amy0302]

The pain can be horrific been a and e couple times in the past x

[Amy0302 in reply to Hidden]

You and me both 😢 it’s awful, I’ve had some horrible doctors too accusing me of faking because the tests show no issues. The last time I went someone said ‘it’s normal for young females to have stomach pain’ . It’s heartbreaking that I’m starting to feel as though I should stop asking for help

[Hidden in reply to Amy0302]

Don’t do that I started having pains in my teens I’m nearly 50 now stick to your guns get other things ruled out first don’t give up x

[Amy0302 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you so much, I’m only 18. I’m just hoping we can get an answer to this soon.