FODMAPs

[Alicoco]

Hi. I am a little confused so hopefully someone can enlighten me! The booklet I was given by my dietician at the hospital clearly says to avoid soya flour, soy beans however it also says that Soya milk, alpro soya desserts and other 'dairy free' products are OK. What confuses me is that looking at the ingredients listed on the product labels several state they include hulled soya beans , soya lecithin...... SO are they actually OK for not?????

[ClareLou]

What book were you given? I was given the Kings college london one. In this it says to avoid all wheat, rye and barley flour. In the beans and pulses section it says no soy beans. In the milk section it says you can hsve soya milk.

I have been using soya milk Etc on fodmap and have been fine.

Hope that's helps. If your not sure I would ask for another appointment with your dietition

[Alicoco in reply to ClareLou]

Hi, thanks for your reply. I have the King's College, London book too which is why I am confused as to why it says Alpro products which list hulled soy beans in the ingredients are OK!

[ClareLou in reply to Alicoco]

As far as I understand FODMAPs are based on chemical structures so a liquid would be a diffrent structure than a solid. Only thing I can think off if you do find an answer let me know

[Alicoco in reply to ClareLou]

Good thought! I'll let you know if I find out more!

[fenbadger in reply to Alicoco]

I think the process of making soya milk also removes the problematic ingredients (contained in the skin).

I've been told you can have pulses if they're soaked well, then you rinse until the water runs clear. It's not perfect but works for me.

[Alicoco in reply to ClareLou]

Hi

Here is a further reply I received which is really helpful:

You need to choose products manufactured from hulled soya beans and NOT whole soya beans, the processing method makes a difference to the types and amount of carbohydrate (FODMAP). Soya Lecithin is a type of fat/oil so should not contain much if any carbohydrate - therefore should not contain much FODMAP. Lecithin is usually only found in small amounts in food also. I hope this helps but if you are confused you should also ask your dietitian to explain.

[IBSNetwork Partner IBS Network]

Hi

You need to choose products manufactured from hulled soya beans and NOT whole soya beans, the processing method makes a difference to the types and amount of carbohydrate (FODMAP). Soya Lecithin is a type of fat/oil so should not contain much if any carbohydrate - therefore should not contain much FODMAP. Lecithin is usually only found in small amounts in food also. I hope this helps but if you are confused you should also ask your dietitian to explain.

[Alicoco in reply to IBSNetwork]

That's great help. Thank you so much!

[PurpleIdeas in reply to IBSNetwork]

So is Alpro silky smooth chocolate soya desert ok? It's got hulled soya beans but also unidentifiable 'flavouring and 10.5g sugars. Thanks

[fenbadger]

And on top of all that:

If I cut out everything on the fodmaps list, and allow for what I cant or don't eat for other reasons, there's not a lot left.

Porridge seems like Soya in some ways. Loads of fibre for cholesterol etc but it contains starch

[foxkennedy21]

Hi Alicoco, I don't believe your dietitian has just thrown booklets at you, on a FODMAP diet they are meant to help you, don't believe everything you read either, you may have an intolerance to NOTHING, I don't like the advice given on FODMAP diets, they'd have us eat nothing! Experiment with your diet, ingredient by ingredient, the dietitian I had originally had to apologise to me as I didn't know what I was doing, stripped everything out of my diet, considering I was vegetarian with a poor diet already and left it! My diet is now so poor it's weakened my immunity! Just try different things, FODMAPS clutch at straw they don't look at stress and other factors that make you feel bad when you have i.b.s or similar!

[pbyron in reply to foxkennedy21]

That's not fair on the Low Fodmap diet and reflects more on the dietitian. The diet is for those who need to find out what affects them. It's only for a couple of months to cut everything that could affect you out of your diet, within reason (and it is flexible) before re-adding them one by one to test for whether your body is affected. It's a temporary diet that helps determine what affects you and is not meant to be permanent.