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progressed on xeloda to Doxil…some fun things that happened on the way… with pictures…

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I’m Beth and I am 4 years and 4 lines into this journey with the tough stuff still ahead. I am writing today to share a bit as some here have been kind enough to ask how things are going for me knowing I was having a therapy change. What a memorable month it’s been since having a small progression in my spine which has led me to have to return to the dreaded red devil IV chemo after a 20 year break since early BC.

Luckily my daughter and I had a long planned trip to Washington DC just days before that first trip for chemo. We enjoyed using those city bike rentals all around those gorgeous monuments and had brunch with dear friends but my favorite thing was that lovely hotel room.. so full of fun that I didn’t have time to fret about going back onto IV chemo the day after arriving back home.

When the day finally arrived, it was a real treat to be driven into Boston by my best friend Cindy. Funnily enough, we by accident dressed exactly alike… as our both our style typically runs toward zookeeper crossed with a yogi instructor. Sneakers, yoga pants even both of us choosing to wear thin down vests….. the nurses would be forgiven for repeatedly referring to us as “a nice couple”. When they hooked me up and let the premeds drip, ivfound it was so intense. By that I mean that The Benadryl hit me like a rocket going up with G forces-the drug felt like it caused my head to push back onto that vinyl recliner and I couldn’t lift my arms while my jaw slacked not very attractively. . “Not to worry” I was told…” the dexamethamethazone (speed) will perk you up”. Oh ya… I remember that stuff from 20 years ago…

Not very fun-this time it also kept me awake for the next 36 hrs. Note to self- please remember to tell them that I am very sensitive to that stuff.. “ya da ya da ya da”… I sure don’t need to go into the gory details as you all prob can imagine… but the N&V was worse than I remembered. I think it was perhaps because Doxil had been so built up as the kinder gentler version of Doxirubicin but not for me… after the N&V cleared, then the mouth sores started plus the HFS has not abated from my previous 18 months on xeloda…. But No worries as kept repeating “this too shall pass…” and soon it was Father’s Day and I was well enough to have a fantastic week e-biking around Acadia National Park before they hit me again on June25th,

This 2nd cycle I had an easier time of it with written instructions for rescue meds ready to take.

I was happy that this cycle had very little nausea! This allowed me to completely enjoy helping my sisters host my mothers 90th bday in my sisters 200 year old barn. My mumwas delighted with her small luncheon-both of her best friends from 3rd and 7th grade came!.. this of course was a huge effort for them as they are also 90years old. Good bless them for making the effort!

Speaking of making an effort for best friends.. on July 1st it was my turn to make a huge effort in order to be with my Best friends… I was so happy to be well enough to fly to Chicago to hang out with

My very best friend from kindergarten David who now lives in Stockholm…. I asked another BFF Claire (who was the maid of honor from my wedding)…if she would come with me to help achieve this bucket list treat. We had an absolute blast! Yes It is getting harder to travel for sure.. but I can be sore at home and then miss out…or I can keep moving. This is Just my perspective right now but I hope it is helpful for some. And if travel has Become too much for you, I hope that you are giving yourself the grace that I know you would wish for others! Happy 4th of July!

I’m going to post some pic below.. if you care to see.

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My mum with her Best friend from 7th grade

My mum hugging her BFF at 90th party
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monkeygirl62 in reply toBettybuckets

Beautiful touching picture.

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HelenWi in reply toBettybuckets

What a wonderful moment for your mum. How fortunate for her and you!

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Bettybuckets

my kindergarten pal David and his partner came from Sweden to Chicago so I had to make the effort to go see him.. I usually look… well sick with MBC but David did his magic with hair and make up and I think I look great!

Roof top bar in Chicago
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LibraryGeek in reply toBettybuckets

You do!

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SMPG in reply toBettybuckets

You always have a great attitude. Bravo for you!!!!

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Totheriver in reply toBettybuckets

You look beautiful 💕

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HelenWi in reply toBettybuckets

Fabulous photo of you and friends!

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Totheriver

Sounds like a bit of a rough go but I sure like your attitude and how you push through. Sorry you have to go through this bur as we know the journey is tough. Take care and looking forward to seeing your pictures 💕

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LibraryGeek

You are as always a tonic and an inspiration. Hope the IV chemo gets easier and works some magic for you.

Jackie x

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Best521

Great to see you move forward despite all the challenges. 🥰

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Bravespirit

”…I can be sore at home and then miss out… or I can keep moving…”.

I love your attitude. I feel the same. I won’t let cancer rob me of living aa active, rich, vibrant life. I am going to keep moving in any manner I can, as long as I can - there is so much yet to see and do, ever with my crutches and wheelchair

I pray you can keep moving for many years to come 🙏💗

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Hopeful4Cure

Glad you had the energy. Yeah the iv chemo is hard. Your are right though, we need to push ourselves, just to get out of bed. Having the resources to even have a bucket list helps a great deal with motivation. Have you been on this journey for 4 years or 20? Surely many of us hope to have a 20 year run too or more. You are very fortunate. My dr. told me to sell the scooter and stay off bikes. :-) Blessings

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13plus in reply toHopeful4Cure

Did your doc tell you that because of specific bone mets? I'm sorry you got that advise. Reminds me of a couple of years ago when an onc. orthopedic surgeon suggesting I should avoid running :( I was never much of a runner per se but always loved to include short jogs in my walks. I feel like I've lost a lot of strength since I stopped doing things like that, though it's hard to know if it's been the cancer or the limiting physical challenge which has added to my declining strength! Very frustrating. And I haven't been on my bike for a while because last year I was having a lot of muscular issues around my legs/pelvis whenever I challenged myself physically. But I'm doing better this year so have been wondering about taking a ride on it! As long as I avoid the hills lol.

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Hopeful4Cure in reply to13plus

Great question. Walking is great and doing other types of exercise to strengthen your muscles. I was just declining in health since 2022. I lost a lot of muscle. Since I have been on HT over the last 5 months, I am gaining better strength. It takes a long time to heal from all the different chemo treatments. If you fall, you risk breaking a bone/fracture and it is painful, takes longer to heal and other things can develop because of it. Needing surgery, infections, more meds and therapy. It is just too risky. Falling and not breaking anything but being in pain is lucky, still hurts. Just like not wearing a mask and getting covid. People say it is just a bad cold, well I do not want a bad cold. I try to be extra careful with all my choices on a daily basis. I still wear a mask in supermarkets, etc.

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13plus in reply toHopeful4Cure

I caught a bad cold from my husband back in early May and it was terrible! I had mostly stopped wearing masks around but now Covid is increasing again in our area so (apparently by quite a lot) so I’ve started to take more precautions again. A drag, but it does beat being sick.

And yes healing from an injury can set you way back, it’s true. I broke a bone in my foot early last year that took months to heal, that was a major, major set back for me physically. Trying to build it up again

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Bettybuckets in reply to13plus

do try an e-bike… it is so helpful for the hills.. I am happiest on my bike… it has a lot of shock absorbing gizmos which really helps. Yes it has been hard to know if it is the cancer or the treatments that are mostly leading to the decline in vitality… still at 64 I am frustrated with what I have the energy to do in a day… but still it is more than most of my perfectly well friends. It helps to keep that in perspective

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Pbsoup

love this (not the chemo issues part but the unquenchable spirit part)

I totally agree we have to keep out there as much as possible. Your intrepid spirit is inspiring.

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November1944

you are a star

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13plus

Oh I am so sorry to hear the xeloda stopped working for you. (I'm a bit nervous to get my next bloodwork. The first few months of xeloda my tm's kept dropping insanely, and then suddenly last month they plateaued, so I'm worried about it all reversing. We shall soon see! ) Ugh, to Doxil, and yet, you power through! You truly are a motivating inspiration ❤️ I think you and are the same with response to the other meds! That's great that it was much better the 2nd time around. Is the plan to stay on this now? Or is it just for a certain period of time?

After my shitty start to this year, and then getting thru tax time, I talked to my husband and son and said, we should go away somewhere special while I'm doing well! And so we did! Quickly booked a week in Costa Rica, I managed to do lots of hiking (skipped a bit of my Xeloda to pull it off, hfs be damned!) and we had a fabulous time. I was so happy we went. The ironic part was I got hit by extreme fatigue when we returned and it took me about 10 days to feel myself again. oh well, still glad I went! As you say, we have to make the most of it. Thanks for updating us

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Bettybuckets in reply to13plus

Good for you! I needed to take a full day of rest today once I realized I was so tired…sometimes it just hits you that way!

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Nocillo

Glad to hear from you. I had been wondering…

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Bettybuckets in reply toNocillo

I just had so much to say…that it kept me from sitting down and doing an update.

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irisF

Et oui, il nous faut bien du courage et essayer de ce dire que ces poisons sont là pour attaquer un ennemi de taille, moi je suis sous afinitor et exemestane, exemestane me bloque carrément les genoux, je n'arrive pas à marcher depuis 2 mois et dans mon petit coin de France, les kinés, médecins, acupuncteurs ne veulent plus se déplacer donc on se débrouille comme on peut face à nos effets secondaires, heureusement pour le moment le traitement a au moins le mérite de donner des résultats. Courage à toutes

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Bettybuckets in reply toirisF

bonjour mon cher ami français, je suis vraiment désolé que l'exemestsne te cause des douleurs au genou. c'est terrible. Je l'avais l'habitude de le vendre pour pdizer onvology à des oncologues. effet secondaire terrible pour certains.. essayez d'obtenir du Celebrex.

J'ai un ami qui vit en France rurale à une heure de Limoges. J'ai adoré visiter son village, alors ils ont fait venir un camion de bresd et plus tard un camion d'épicerie. J'imagine qu'il n'y aurait pas de physio ou de docteur là-bas. mais c'est vraiment un paradis ! comment est l'affineur ? est-ce IV et plutôt bien toléré ?

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AvidBooklover

Your attitude is inspiring! Love hearing more about "The Lady on the Billboard!"

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Dragonfighter

Wishing the best for you in all things!

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bikebabe

Hiya Beth - loving to hear about your active lifestyle. May your resilience, strength, adventurousness continue to inspire us for years to come. Nb might you share the name of your insurance company that makes all those flights possible. Here in dreary old blighty we're having a summer that's forgotten how to be summer with weather that's rainy, windy and so cold i need my gloves and jumpers. But we do have something major to celebrate - getting rid of a corrupt Tory party - politicians who lied, cheated, misled, and abused their powers to raid our national bank to make them and their cronies even richer.

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Bettybuckets in reply tobikebabe

Hi Bikebabe- good to see you here! Is it like a labor party that has taken over from the Tory’s… and that woman PM didn’t even retain her seat. That must have been a big upset. Let’s hope things improve economically for our friends in the UK.

Re: my travel insurance….. I have good insurance in USA and then I just pay out of pocket to see my private oncogist in NZ while I am there… I am lucky to be a dual citizen and they have socialized med so for accidents etc and my GP visits I rely on the very good NZ health care system. When I visit my son in Switzerland I do buy insurance… just the usual.

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bikebabe in reply toBettybuckets

Thank you

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MoUtOrWaNc

You truly are an inspiration. Sending lots of love and healing your way.

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Bettybuckets in reply toMoUtOrWaNc

Always happy to see you here!

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Totheriver

Your attitude is very inspiring 💕. Love the travelling you do. We don’t travel much any more but I am ok with that. Might try a little road trip but I am fighting a sore hip and right leg. Will see what my scans say in a couple of weeks. Take care💕

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Bettybuckets in reply toTotheriver

Let’s hope that ache is nothing… keep me posted

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Totheriver in reply toBettybuckets

Thanks. I will.

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love2golfwell

I am so sorry you had to move to IV chemo, but hope it will work for you and that the side effects will get better. You are an inspiration to me and others on this site. You have such a wonderful attitude and adventurous spirit. Glad you were able to see some friends and celebrate your mom's birthday. Love the pic of her with her friend and also the ones of you and your daughter in DC (one of my favorite places to visit) as well as you friend David. You look beautiful in that picture. Keep up your fighting spirit Beth, never give up, keep planning travels when you are able. Sending you hugs and prayers.

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Bettybuckets in reply tolove2golfwell

Thank you so much for chiming in… it’s not easy as you know…. But I pray that I can stay well enough for NZ again on Jan 30-March 17th… might have to have chemo over there… if I had to I could do that.

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mariootsi

So happy to hear from you. You have been a busy girl despite setbacks. Inspiring!

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Bettybuckets

just starting to get tired now that I am 2 months into the doxil… I did like xeloda having no effect on my energy but 18 months of it was tough on my HFS feet!

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Praising in reply toBettybuckets

What is HFS? I’ve been on fluveserant and Ibrance 6 mo. Progression in spine. Don’t know what is next??

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Kerryd22 in reply toPraising

It’s hand and foot syndrome. It’s brought on by folate and folic acid. A friend had a really fast and aggressive reaction to xeloda stages taking it for colon cancer not breast cancer. It’s really painful but lots of cream like moo goo or similar on hands and feet every night also helps.

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Bettybuckets in reply toKerryd22

Do they recommend any folate? Or are you meant to avoid folate when on it?

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Kerryd22 in reply toBettybuckets

Folate is linked to HFS and keeping folate and folic acid as low as possible definitely helps according to a long term user (on another site). Folate is listed by the drug manufacturer as something to be avoided while on Xeloda. In Australia folic acid is added to common foods like bread because it’s important for potential mothers before falling pregnant as low folate levels leads to spina bifida.

I think it might be hard to reduce entirely but keeping it very low is sufficient for some people.

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Timtam56

oh you are such a positive gorgeous creature. I just wish the best for you.

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Tolife_18

I can’t even express how I admire your strength and strong will to move on despite everything.

You’re a model to me. To live while alive.

I too love to travel and try to as much as I can despite being in the wheelchair. Thank G-d for my husband.

Now dreading the next PET scan and potential change of therapy.

Stay strong my friend and enjoy the life to the fullest!

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Bettybuckets in reply toTolife_18

thank you so much.. I too have a husband that I owe so much as he does so much for me. I had just one full day in wheelchair while traveling thru 3 airports and it was so tough with all the bouncing and absorbing cracks. I didn’t know… walking is a blessing! I can’t do so much with HFS as I used to but still I now value it so much.

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Shafight in reply toBettybuckets

You’ve certainly had the bad with the good. Thanks to your family friends and adventure spirit, it’s been mostly good. You are very inspiring! Please keep letting us know how you are doing!

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MaryCos

Hi Beth! I am so sorry that you needed to return to the Red Devil, but the rest of your post reminds us all to keep on living!!

I was/am going to reach out to you privately about a call I had a couple of days ago with Alicia (monkeygirl) where you came up in conversation! Alicia is the newest member of the MoreFor4 Board of Directors.

I have to run out for about an hour or so, but I will send you a private email when I get home. In the public forum, though, I will just say... your zest for life is contagious. And you have always been someone I clicked with here!

Looking forward to a proper chat! ❤️

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