Has anyone seen the new report on this? I have been concerned about Covid and metastases in general (not the shot or following boosters) because my metastases appeared 15 days after I had a very mild case of Covid. A professor of oncology at St. George’s university of London states that Research shows that the spike protein obliterates 90% of the dna repair mechanism in lymphocytes a type of white blood cell that helps your body fight infection and chronic disease including cancer. Cancer rates have increased since the Covid shots were introduced.
Frankly,, I’m seriously concerned because honestly when my first mri came back abnormal, even tho I had stage II in 2014, I didn’t panic because I thought it was a momentary thing related to my Covid infection. What is going on here? Is this a real thing and it’s scary that oncologists are sounding the alarm about this uptick in cancer cases. I know of at least 3 people in my area who had Covid and then were diagnosed with cancer, very aggressive cancers, one of the breast and one of the colon. They were not vaccinated.
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There was little to no cancer screening done in the first two years of covid so it stands to reason that more cancer will be detected in the years following the start up of screening again.
I haven’t heard anything about the claim you’ve highlighted but I have had covid as have many people I know. My MBC isn’t worse because of it and no one I know has had new cancer diagnosed.
It’s more likely to be coincidence rather than a pattern to be worried about.
What Kerryd22 writes is what I think, as well. No-one got to go for cancer screenings or any other non urgent medical thing for such a long time. The cancer went undetected in so many people!
It was an article about Dr. Angus Dalgleish professor of oncology. I will discuss with my oncologist when I go to my monthly appt Tuesday. Thanks for the replies!
I also will be interested to hear. I’ve had MBC for over 6 years and experienced new cancerous nodes following a covid booster which I got a terrible reaction from. I think it was all a big coincidence but haven’t gone for another booster since. Interested to hear other’s experiences.
Perhaps you have misunderstood Dr. Dalgleish's comments (see Youtube interview) when he criticized the UK lockdown due to Covid which he said resulted in excess deaths due to more people not seeking early treatment for cancer and other serious ailments.
From the National Cancer Institute:
"CDC, NCCN, and other cancer-related organizations urge cancer patients to get COVID-19 vaccinations and booster shots. Why?
Data show that people with cancer and others with weakened immune systems are at high risk for severe complications from COVID-19. Vaccines have been shown to decrease the risk of hospitalization and death from COVID-19, even among people with cancer. Plus, we now have evidence that the virus can persist in immunocompromised people, which may lead to the rise of new variants. Therefore, vaccinating these individuals—and the population as a whole—continues to be important to slow the spread of the virus and save lives" (bolding added).
I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere that initially he believed that to be so but has since changed his mind and believes what I have posted.
I see Angus even though he’s primarily a skin and a vaccine guy. I’m in london and at George’s is my local hospital. I sought him out privately. He’s brilliant. Look each to their own but I won’t be taking any more vaccinations whilst I have cancer. I have stage 4 breast cancer that “appeared” de novo a few weeks following a hysterectomy, my brothers sudden death and the moderna vaccine. I had a clear mammo prior to the hysterectomy I. September 2021. Brother died October 21 of a blood clot following two AZ vaccines (coroner said vaccine related), I had moderna vaccine in November and ended up in hospital after baving what appeared like a mini stroke and then in January 22 I fall, hurt my back, have an mri, they find a lesion and bam I’m told I have stage 4 breast cancer that has spread to my bones.
So sorry for your loss and all you are going through. Wish you the best and so glad yourself receiving care you feel good about - that is so important.🌺❤🌺
Dr. Dagleish is an interesting fellow with many "irons in the fire". According to Wikipedia, "Angus George Dalgleish (born May 1950) FRCP FRCPath FMedSci... is a professor of oncology at St George's, University of London, best known for his contributions to HIV/AIDS research... Dalgleish stood in 2015 for Parliament as a UKIP candidate.", and "After various positions in the United Kingdom, Dalgleish joined the Royal Flying Doctor Service in Mount Isa, Queensland, then progressed through positions at various hospitals in Brisbane, Australia, before moving to the Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research in Sydney. After completion of his training, Dalgleish returned to work in the UK in 1984 at the Institute of Cancer Research. He is a co-discoverer of the CD4 receptor as the major cellular receptor for HIV. In 1986, he was appointed to a consulting position at Northwick Park Hospital, in 1991 he was made Foundation Professor of Oncology at St George's, University of London, and in 1994 he was appointed Visiting Professor at the Institute of Cancer Research in London." (Please note that all of these academic positions occurred over 25 years ago.)
"In 1997, he founded Onyvax Ltd., a privately-funded biotechnology company developing cancer vaccines, where he held the position as Research Director; it was dissolved in 2013. Dalgleish is a member of the medical board in Bionor Pharma. Dalgleish is on the scientific advisory board of Immodulon, and has stock options in Immunor AS, a disclosure he made in order to have his research work published. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Dalgleish was criticised for being a proponent of the lab leak theory."
All bolding was added by me. My point is that Dr. Dagleish has spent the last 25 years of his career working for private businesses, and his outspoken, apparent disregard for Covid vaccines is surprising given that he once tried to develop cancer vaccines...
he’s a very interesting man and has been chair of oncology for nhs at George’s for ages. He knows his stuff. His view on covid vaccine is that it’s reasonably untested (time), it serves to protect from the previous strain not the new strain so it’s always behind the curve and the nhs have seen too many Gynae issues, clot issues and myocarditis issues correlating with vaccine pushes.
Remember the WHO now accept and have published that the covid virus is a lab leak - see their published info.
Anyway I think he’s a good guy and interesting to watch. I see him quarterly when I can.
Here's the latest I found from the WHO regarding the "lab leak theory" - cbc.ca/news/health/who-covi.... Here's the gist of the article: "An expert group drafted by the World Health Organization to help investigate the origins of the coronavirus pandemic says further research is needed to determine how COVID-19 first began, including a more detailed analysis of the possibility it was a laboratory accident. That stance marks a sharp reversal of the United Nations agency's initial assessment of the pandemic's origins. WHO concluded last year that it was "extremely unlikely" COVID-19 might have spilled into humans from a lab. Many scientists suspect the coronavirus jumped into people from bats, possibly via another animal. In a report released Thursday, WHO's expert group said that "key pieces of data" to explain how the pandemic began were still missing. The scientists said the group would "remain open to any and all scientific evidence that becomes available in the future to allow for comprehensive testing of all reasonable hypotheses."
I wish I was able to visit him because down here in Louisiana I couldn’t get my oncologist to even admit lobular breast cancer can spread to stomach lining and cannot be found on normal PET scans. Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought I read something similar on here and that it was a somewhat controversial finding that many with MBC believe.
Your brother dying from a booster related illness is so heartbreaking. To do what he thought was the right thing for his health and safety and then have it backfire on him…..That’s the scary part about any medical decision we make as patients.Im so very sorry for your loss!!! Our camping buddies who are also my in laws recently had heart attacks, a mother, a father, and their 50 yo son. Sadly, my 50yo nephew died from his heart attack which was his second in three months. We just never know….the parents survived their heart attacks, their son did not.
so sorry to hear that, we lost my brother to the same in Nov. he had no prior heart issues.
for anyone interested in doing more research or hearing directly from some well informed people incl those in the funeral industry on potential risks, check out the free documentary on rumble called sudden death. Hugely eye opening.
my Mets appeared a few weeks after first two Covid shots. Began with terrible back ache. Cancer must have been in my bones and then spread. After getting Covid, 2 mo later Mets had spread to liver. I’ve always wondered if there was a connection
I have been hearing about a Correlation. I have read similar Scenarios such as yours. So it may be possible, hopefully The Professionals can help shed light on the Topic!🙏🏼
I'm not sure whether you meant that your mets spread after you got Covid or Covid vaccines??
I recently was infected with the Covid virus during a cruise. Fortunately, despite my extensive cancer mets, I was not very ill because I'd previously taken all five of the anti-Covid shots available in Saskatchewan.
I was not vaccinated, caught a very mild case of Covid (pain in my groin area) and 15 days later discovered I had MBC stage IV. Pain in the groin area is NOT a symptom of Covid but I had to sit on a heating pad for a couple days and struggled to walk afterward. Finally went in to see about it a week or so later and bam MBC to bone stage IV.
I would be very surprised to read any research which concluded MBC could develop in 15 days!! Instead, research usually indicates that 30% of women with early breast cancer will ultimately find that it has metastasized. It seems cancer cells may remain dormant in the body for many years before they start to grow again to form tumours. The fact that you had early breast cancer in 2014 is the reason why you now have MBC, nothing to do with whether or not you had Covid or a Covid vaccination!
IN my case, I had early breast cancer in 2006, and 13 years later was diagnosed with MBC after my right arm became lymphedemic. I hadn't been paying attention to my health, but likely could have been diagnosed a year or two before my arm swelled so suddenly.
Let me preface this comment by saying, I am not vaccinated, my choice. My children and hubs are essential workers so they went to work every day like usual working with the public. My adult kids are not vaccinated. I was a 20 year medical transcriptionist who worked from home. I did not avoid my kids or my hubs and I protected my mother when around her. Hubs works in oilfield and at one time in close quarters they had seven cases on board. He stayed offshore for almost 50 days afterward to protect our family during that scary time when no one knew what Covid was exactly. One of the seven almost died. Hubs was then tested every time he went back to work, twice a month which is how we found out we had Covid. He went to work, was tested, tested positive, was sent home. I tested and was positive. No symptoms except extreme groin pain for me, zero symptoms for him. He was mandated to get vaccinated or lose his job which he did on 12/21 as was the entire oilfield. He took the month off work for vacay and when he went back on 1/22, even tho the entire workforce was forced to get vaccinated, they had to work with a skeletal crew because so many men and women on board tested positive for Covid. They had a choice to either take the 2 shot dose or the 1 shot dose. Hubs chose to take the single shot for full immunity. This is not a debate. I’m scared of what is happening to all of us and what can happen to my family. I’m sharing my story and the reasons why I wholeheartedly believe something smells rotten with Covid and we are paying the price. I don’t think anyone is safe, vaccinated or not. Covid itself, not the boosters, not the shots, the DISEASE in general is what I am trying to get across. Yes I posted a link about the boosters but I wasn’t vaccinated and it concerns me because if the vaccines don’t work (read my experience above), maybe the boosters don’t work either. I am not the only close family member with a diagnoses of cancer in the past. I worry about their future as well.
So here is what I forgot to say previously, I fell in my house on 1/22. I was afraid I broke a bone or fractured a bone because my hip hurt. My GP ran some scans of hips and lower body. Scans came back normal. Hip pain was alleviated with advil. I caught a mild case of Covid on 3/22. I had extreme groin pain and googling saw that groin pain was not a symptom of Covid. No other symptoms. After our quarantine, we went camping in our rv. It was during that trip I needed hubs assistance to turn over in my bed and it was very painful and I also struggled to walk. Made an appt to see GP again. I had no fear of a recurrence of cancer because I had previous recent scans that were negative and when that scan found the cancer in my bone also on 3/22, I said nope, it can’t be. It has to be Covid related. After looking at the scans, my oncologist said she didn’t understand how I was still walking (ya think!!!) because the cancer in my pelvis was extensive which is why I needed help walking and also turning over in bed.. I really don’t know when metastases occurred but it sure is a coincidence that a fall in my house with clear scans on 1/22 followed closely by a mild case of Covid on 3/22 with the only symptom being extreme groin pain (yep I cried a lot) followed by more scans on 3/22 and then a diagnosis of stage iv, maybe I’m making a huge leap in thinking it could possibly be related to the Covid but if you were me, wouldn’t you be thinking something similar??? I am from small town USA where you know EVERYONE and I have to tell ya, it’s scary. My email is flooded with many young people dying after the pandemic. Prior stable cancer patients with sudden recurrence dying after the pandemic. Newly diagnosed cancer patients after having Covid or the vaccine now in treatment. I really want to hear your stories, the honest stories, is there a connection for you or your family. Is my town just a hot spot? Maybe this is all just a big coincidence, maybe not. Maybe it’s Covid related, maybe not. And man, I certainly hope not….
I’m so glad you survived that ordeal! My cousins husband had asthma, was intubated for months, yes months!, and finally came out of it. His lungs are not healed completely and may never completely heal but miraculously he is living a normal life again. We were so very scared that after being intubated for so long, he would not survive. I have a cousin who refused to be intubated and like you did everything he possibly could to survive this dreaded disease and luckily he did. He is also back to normal. I hope, like the two relatives I’ve mentioned, you also have no long term side effects of your stay in the hospital.
Also I agree that it highly possible that Covid did not cause the cancer but exacerbated the cancer and what I’m starting to believe also made it more aggressive.
I think it is very important that we base our decisions on as much research data as we can collect. Please google this link: mskcc.org/coronavirus/myths....
The Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center is closely connected to New York's prestigous Sloan Kettering Institute (SKI). Its write-up states: "As the experimental research arm of Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, SKI is focused on the pursuit of fundamental scientific discoveries. The institute’s philosophy is that the best way to fuel progress in cancer treatment is to support scientists as they explore the unknown.
SKI is distinguished by its: world-renowned faculty, cutting-edge technological resources, relatively small size and open academic community, extensive collaboration between scientists and clinicians. SKI exists as a distinct entity within the larger community of scholars, clinicians, and researchers that make up MSK. SKI hosts more than 100 laboratory investigators and more than 900 pre- and postdoctoral trainees. The institute enjoys a close relationship with neighbors Weill Cornell Medicine and The Rockefeller University.
Over the course of its over 70-year history, SKI has produced many advances in our understanding of biology and medicine. SKI scientists have discovered cancer-related genes, unraveled signaling pathways that control cell growth and division, and identified the cell types involved in mounting and repressing immune responses. SKI research has also been a driver of clinical advances in cancer treatment, from chemotherapy to targeted therapy to immunotherapy."
I go to MSK. And I am well aware of all these research items but thanks for the link
Additionally I am not forced or even told to get every single booster
I have been at MSK every three weeks since June 2020 and I’m in the research trial part
I’ve had COVID ad I wrote prior I’ve been vaccinated and boosted I just wonder snd think sometimes thst COVID and the subsequent vaccines or boosters may have effected the cancer
I will probably never know for sure but it is interesting
I agree we should keep ourselves educated and be our own best cheerleader
Thanks for your reply. I think you are fortunate to be receiving treatment from MSK. My oncologist has not spoken to me about Covid or boosters either. I think he is very busy seeing patients so I mostly just respond to his questions.
The myth the MSK link mentions that I thought relevant to your concern about Covid or the vaccines making cancer more aggressive was the first one. To me, it is very important that we protect our weakened immune systems in as many ways as we can, and, other than normal health precautions, I think that mostly means vaccines.
I haven't seen that report or heard anything about it. I have never had Covid. Diagnosed MBC end of 2021. Five vaccine and booster shots and two flu shots later my tumors shrank and I am considered stable. Thanks to my outstanding care team, scientific researchers, Ibrance and Letrozole all is well. The MRNA technology they used to create the Covid vaccine is the same science behind some of the Breast Cancer vaccines in development. I for one along with the scientists am very excited about the future of Breast Cancer vaccines. 😊
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